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what if you are only granted 1 downvote per 2 upvotes you assign-- this would have a triple effect of promoting a more positive site-wide image and make downvotes twice as meaningful while also preventing abusive brigading of users-- just a thought- is the idea even feasibly applicable?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ooooh! We're doing alternatives! Oh boy!

Okokokok: so, you get one vote point every week for every comment or post that has a net positive of upvotes by other subscribed users in the community. Every net negative post or comment loses a point. You can use those votes either for an up or down, in any community, but you have a balance reflected by your positive contributions as determined by your peers.

This is a horrible idea in many ways, but also a great idea in some ways:

Positives:

  • New accounts have very little voting power. Established users have voting power proportional to their positive contribution to their communities, as determined by their peers.
  • It would stop the practice of creating a throw-away accounts only for the purpose of harassing via voting. It would require an extra step of creating a post or comment that at least one other user upvotes. If a user used one of their other accounts just to upvote a comment by another of their accounts, it's a zero-sum game: they've spent a vote just to get a vote.
  • Established, positive commenters and posters would have proportionate voting power.
  • It would encourage constructive, positive engagement.
  • It's entirely relative to the community, and would encourage content relevant to and popular with that community.

Negatives:

  • Established, positive commenters and posters would have proportionate voting power. This would in theory be encouraging an oligarchy, although since voting is post-scarcity, and since voting is one-time per account, it can't really be translated into exercise-able "power."
  • It would encourage constructive, positive engagement. In other words, it'd discourage dissent or unpopular opinions, reinforcing the echo chamber.
  • It's entirely relative to the community, and would encourage content relevant to and popular with that community. Same as above: it encourages pandering.
  • Someone could still have bot accounts that only have to post or comment such that they have a net positive "income," and then can just sit there and accrue voting points over time, accumulating enough points to still perform voting harassment.
  • It's biased against lurkers; some people aren't social, and shouldn't be punished for it. This would take away their voices.

I think some of the negatives could be addressed; e.g., vote accrual only happens for comments or posts that are under a month old: you can only accrue a max of 4 points per post or comment. This would address the first and fourth negative. However, I don't think anything could resolve the echo chamber, or the other negatives. Anyway, there's my bad idea.

[–] fallowseed 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

twitter has something like this that hides you away until you're 'established' by reposting and following x users.. ostensibly to curb botting-- it feels shitty though and could drive a lot of users away.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah. It's a crappy idea, and I hate it. We're trying to fix the wrong problem.