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If you asked me like 4-8 years ago, I felt kind of neutral about things. Now I don't feel an ounce bit patriotic or proud enough to even state that I'm an American.

Now, when I see an American flag around, I see it as a symbol of fascism, anti-intelluctialism, neo-nazism, and late-stage capitalism amongst other things. If there's an American flag flying on a car, I can totally see that person possessing at least one of those qualities.

I suppose it's good to be self aware and not blindly feel patriotic and ignoring that your country needs improvement.

I don't know what I'm expecting in the comments here but just thought I would get this off my chest.

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[–] Tedesche -3 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

No, you shouldn’t, because nearly half the country voted against Trump. It wasn’t enough, but it certainly indicates a significant portion of the country opposes him and the ideologies behind him. What we, as Americans, should be ashamed of is our pathetic educational system, which is at the root of this problem.

Both Republicans and Democrats are at the core of this problem. Republicans don’t want any public education at all and Democrats have polluted public education with Far Left propaganda that has fueled conservative rage and helped Far Right people divide the nation. Race and gender issues have eclipsed class issues, which are the real problems of the nation. As much as LGBT and racial groups deserve their particular rights, the real divisions at the heart of America are between the middle- and working-classes and the ultra-rich. Corporations are the prime devil that need to be taken down, not White men. Plenty of White men are suffering at the hands of corporations and they need to be woken up. The most recent election has shown that non-Whites are just as susceptible to Trump’s charms as anyone else. We need to stop focusing on superficial divisors such as race and gender and start focusing on class divisors much more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Democrats have polluted public education with Far Left propaganda

I'm not familiar with that. Please cite a reputable source.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

Less than a third of eligible voters is not half the country. The winning vote was "nobody" if you include all non-voters. I'd bet if "nobody" was on the ballot they would get even more votes. I wonder why they don't offer that option? Because they have decided that you must be ruled. There is no alternative according to the ruling class. Convenient how that works out.

The US hasn't had more than 2/3 voter turnout for over 100 years. This was the second-highest turnout in that time. That is abysmal.

You can blame those non-voters till you're blue in the face, but the reality is that the US system doesn't get people to vote, because people hate the options, and that is a perennial problem.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

As an anti-aurhoritarian I've been of the opinion that that we've been an authoritarian hell hole for pretty much all of my life. Yes Trump is a fascist but the government is also heavy-handed when Democrats are in power. If you're encouraged that almost half of the votes went to authoritarian Harris, I'd say you shouldn't be. She wasn't a leftist, honestly I think of her as a little bit fascist too, just less ironically puritan.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

You know that two things can be bad, but one is worse than the other right?