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[–] [email protected] 132 points 1 week ago (23 children)

What's infuriating here? You almost never get a reason why you have been declined (if they even answer you). So I find this message pretty nice and polite.. Or am I overlooking something?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (21 children)

I think the requested salary amount plays a big role. If a typical 100k annual role was rejected on salary misalignments despite requesting 60k, I would be much more critical of the company.

[–] FlyingSquid 34 points 1 week ago (12 children)

I was asking for £30,000 a year. I don't think that's unreasonable for a professional position.

[–] teft -3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I know you recently moved. Have you considered the pay is lower because the benefits are higher? In the UK they have universal healthcare which means that part of your salary which used to go to healthcare is now not needed. Perhaps that’s why they gave you a lower offer than you’re used to in american wages?

[–] FlyingSquid 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If the pay is lower than £30,000 a year, I can't get a family visa for my wife and daughter.

Meanwhile, a recruited told me I should be asking for £50,000 a year.

And if you look at how much rents are even in the outskirts of London, I think you will find that low amount of pay is not going to let you have much of a life.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My gut tells me you should ask for $35k.

In my experience, lots of employers (American that is) have offered me a thousand or two less than my request during offers.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I probably shouldn't be doing as lowball an offer as possible, but I'm getting pretty anxious about getting a job because time is trickling away, as is money.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hear that. Are there recruiters in your field you can utilize?

I’m facing eviction because my job (uber driver) isn’t paying enough, seemingly no matter how many hours I work. Got a call from the landlord who said they were gonna go ahead and set up a court date for the eviction.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 1 week ago

I have and am, thank you. Not just in my area. I spent the weekend contacting every recruiter in the UK I could find that would help me. It's taken a while to do something that active because I've been getting settled and dealing with basic stuff, bureaucracy, etc. But I did get a couple of calls later in the day yesterday from recruiters, so that's a positive.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Have you considered the pay is lower because the benefits are higher? In the UK they have universal healthcare which means that part of your salary which used to go to healthcare is now not needed.

Bro I'm not even from the UK I'm from Spain where wages are lower in technical fields and all your "benefits" are the bare minimum any job offers. You then need to offer stuff like remote work, flexible pay, flexible hours, restaurant ticket and more for me to consider a lower wage.

I'm on a technical field and 30k€ would be the bare minimum I would ask for a job after having like 2 years of experience.

Not even trying to negotiate from 30k means they are asking lower than 25k and that's laughable low for a tech job.

And I'm in Spain, one of the cheapest European countries regarding tech work pay.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Agree, 30k €/£/chf is very low.

I’ve never worked nor lived in London but it is a capital, it should be at least 50k.

In Switzerland we would have something around 75 to 120k chf according to specific details (industry, experience, location etc).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

30k a year is like working at Tesco pay, mate

“Junior Video Editor” sounds like it should command a higher price tag than cashiering.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

The unfortunate truth is while it's skilled, it's also a high demand industry which people want to work in. That means there's an endless supply of bright eyed youngsters willing to do it for pennies while living at their parents (low expenses), and thus plenty of companies willing to abuse them. Another comment points out they'll be looking for another in 3 months times and that's probably accurate. At some point these companies realise "damn, maybe having to train up a newbie 3 times a year and having consistently shitty output because of it isn't that great after all, maybe we should hire someone worth their salt even if they cost us more" and that's where proper positions become available, but you have to find them.

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