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important rulepost (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 years ago by dsmaster7173 to c/[email protected]
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

what is "authoritarianism" to you?

[–] phthalocyanin 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

heirarchy in any form

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

well that's just childish isn't it

[–] phthalocyanin 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

do you consider that a rebuttal?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

yes because it's not anything intelligent enough to be thoughtfully argued against. a 7 year old could see the holes in such an idea

[–] phthalocyanin 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I oppose one more system of authority than you do, in the interest of ideological consistency, intellectual honesty.

are you taking the position of a literal child?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

is revolution not putting the authority of the people over those in power, and bringing those people low? that's "hierarchy"

[–] phthalocyanin 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

that depends if you draw distinction between the people and the state (which is merely an abstraction of capital)

state capitalism, as defined by lenin, is not a classless society, and is indefensible as a liberatory philosophy.

just as liberalism abolished the monarchy only to replace it with a dictatorship of private capital, authoritarian socialism replaced monarchy with a beaurocratic ruling class and unilateral control of the means of production.

the neck cares not the color of the boot

[–] Discoslugs 2 points 2 years ago

Thanks for posting this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

how is a small group of people commanding a big mass better?
at least over time there will always be power hungry asshole or just an idiot in position of power.

no power for no one is the only concept that can really work over time. but you need self-responsible and educated people for that

edit: and yeah, it is a utopian idea, but one I believe it is worth working for