GarbageShootAlt

Do you know any liberal refutations of what you call myths about the PCP in this thread like there were of "Private Life of Chairman Mao"?

Our Gonzalite friend is wrong about an number of things, but there is real criticism to be made about Deng radically increasing poverty by undercutting the systems installed under Mao that brought poverty to low levels. The "Chinese miracle" was in many respects solving problems that it itself caused and is a sort of liberal historical revisionism, though of course the more contemporary extreme poverty eradication initiative made real headway that was not made under Mao.

I was late in checking up on things but I appreciate what you shared

I think some of it is liberal propaganda and Deng's reform was mainly useful for survival in capitalist encirclement, as it produced a massive degree of impoverishment for the common people early on.

You're failing to understand that the interest of "tankies" is in democracy being enforced by a proletarian control of the state. The copypastas you were getting were poor communication but they had a point.

The fact that you're comfortably arguing in parallel with blatant neoliberals should give you pause, or are you going to tell me they are less of a concern because they are not "authoritarian," because when people are richer than God and control immense swaths of production and politicians themselves while skirting regulation to fuck over the workers their class made desperate by enclosing the commons, that is not "authoritarian"? This whole thing seems kind of bankrupt to me as far as political theory goes. The mechanisms of control are diffused by various means into the economy and divided among the public/private sector, but if the private sector owns the public sector (and it does) you've got a class of kings who only half-pretend they aren't (Zuck deliberately getting that Caesar haircut is a tell).

There's just no point. Literally no one among the communists I've seen cheers on killing dissidents just because. Fascist collaborators, sure, but not mere dissidents. You're just inventing people to disparage.

Polcomp is an intellectually impoverished and politically illiterate system

Almost like "tankies" don't have some religious reverence for "authority" but in fact specifically believe it should be directed in a certain way . . .

Perfectly fair, but I specify in the second paragraph:

Specifically, do you have any criticisms of China’s contemporary culture? Its government? What are they?

I was talking about the government in the economic case.

Basically just give me anything that you can be persuaded to talk about

Incidentally, this is a great argument to China that they shouldn't back down.

What about a male prostitute?

They are vastly, vastly less common and this is just a poor attempt at a counterpoint because conservatives also dislike male prostitutes, but the answer is that to the socialist male prostitution also represents a problem. It is a smaller problem in absolute terms, but on a "per capita" basis it is of similar severity.

"If we just remove the context of the largest human trafficking disaster Europe has seen in 30 years, it makes sense to want to be a prostitute in Ukraine!" Ukraine is literally the worst place on the continent to be doing that right now, not that it's really the best place to do anything other than die.