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I remember some 20-30 years ago you would sometimes hear about an artist (usually musician, or a group thereof) being sellouts, or having sold out. This of course in a pejorative way, as this was the most heinous of crimes an artist could ever commit against their fan base.

However, I can't recall having heard this term for at least a couple of decades. Has the term been replaced with something else? Is it more accepted? Or is it simply so hard to make it nowadays that the concept of "selling out" is basically just synonymous with making a living?

Are there any modern examples of this and I simply missed the online chatter about it?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I suppose the bands / artists that were accused of "selling out" back in the day have weathered that criticism and inspired multiple generations of subsequent bands / artists that have also gone in to inspire multiple bands / artists.

Take Green Day for example. For me they were the canonical sell out band for my generation. But now nobody cares about that. And bands that rode the wave of their success don't care. And bands that were inspired by Green Day don't care either. Neither do the fans, neither does the press.

So I think it's just less and less of a thing these days. So people don't care as much when you leave your small indie label and join a major. In fact quite the opposite. Good on you for winning against the system.

[–] ElectroVagrant 2 points 16 hours ago

So people don't care as much when you leave your small indie label and join a major. In fact quite the opposite. Good on you for winning against the system.

That's integrating with the system, not winning against it. Which may be taken how one will.

[–] PP_BOY_ 1 points 19 hours ago

FWIW there are still loads of people/bands in the punk scene who loathe Green Day specifically for how commercial they went. No clue about the press or fans, but plenty of venues around here where I'd be laughed out of for mentioning Green Day in a serious punk context