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Here's a link to the judge's 17 page ruling.
It's basically a smackdown of all of Trump's legal arguments against being found guilty and sentenced. Unfortunately it ends with the judge basically saying, despite all that, it's not practical to throw this chucklefuck in jail. So we've got no choice but to let him go free.
So we are ok with a convicted felon to be president because "it's not practical"? Lmfao. Man, this country is such a clusterfucker. If it were me or you, we would have been in prison since yesteryear.
His deplorable followers get nearly the same treatment. If "antifa" or BLM was openly planning, for months, on descending on the Capitol to overturn an election, I think they'd be ready with turret-mounted guns.
As it was, donvict's "peaceful protesters" were allowed the run of the place. They did nothing to try to even get most of them. Took years in some cases to track down these terrorists, and they still haven't gotten all of them yet. The terrorist(s) that planted those bombs - still unpunished.
But a person doesn't magically stop being president just because they are in prison.
Do do we just have a prisoner that hapoens to be president?
What if this prisoner/president just orders the military to break him out?
Yea this doesn't work, any attempt to imprison a president will lead to an invocation of the insurrection act and martial law, and trump would declare anyone who tries to imprison him an enemy and order for their arrest. And if in prison, the military will get him out. (remember, the military leans right wing, most of the military voted trump)
That's why the judge is saying it's "impractical". Its not necessarily the judge being a bootlicker, the judge just knows its futile.
In a perfect world where laws actually apply to everyone equally, this person wouldn't be president to begin with. The fact that you're talking about a prisoner being president is insane in and of itself. Dude should've been banned from running/impeached whenever a conviction happened. End of story. You're a felon, nope, you can't run. You can't even reach the white house.
The man insulted the judge and did a series of things that would hold anyone else in contempt of court. And despite all that, the judge bends over backwards to give him a most lenient sentence.
That's because the judge doesn't really have any real power compared to a president-elect
Attempting to give a prison sentence would result in the judge dying of mysterious circumstances once Jan 20 comes.
Also, its gonna get overturned in higher courts, Supreme Court has the final say, and we all know how "fair" this court is..
Feel free to let out a long curse in the comfort of your home reading this:
Page 17:
What is "unconditional discharge"? Exactly what it sounds like:
https://casetext.com/statute/consolidated-laws-of-new-york/chapter-penal/part-2-sentences/title-e-sentences/article-65-sentences-of-probation-conditional-discharge-and-unconditional-discharge/section-6520-sentence-of-unconditional-discharge-
The judge is literally giving him no imprisonment, fine or penalty, and the entire crux of the decision is that Trump's rights to exercise his appeals needs to be ripe. So Trump gets all opportunities to clear his name, while the people whose rights he violated by criminal conduct get nothing except maybe the ability to call him a convicted felon, pending appeal.
This is NOT the finding of unconditional discharge. The judge explicitly says he is allowing an opportunity for Trump and the prosecution's team to make their arguments before sentencing on 1/10/25. But his putting the above paragraph in is certainly going to severely limit what the prosecution will demand by signaling ahead of time that the judge will likely reject any imprisonment, fine or probation.
Yeah if you read the whole thing from the start to finish, it's like the most disappointing ruined orgasm ever. 17 pages of telling Trump and his lawyers that they're a bunch of fuckwits and their arguments are trash. Then "but none of that matters, I ain't doing shit about it".
Corporate dictatorship, doing corporate dictatorship things, because it's a corporate dictatorship.
So pretty much the Mueller report result again?
Seems like it.
Backbreaker!
Suplex!
Off the ropes Epic Smackdown!
Classic WWE ending. Nobody ever really loses because it's all for show.
I'd be 100% on board with the sentencing being The Undertaker throwing Trump off Hell In A Cell, and having him plummet 16 ft through an announcer's table.
Throw the judges in jail too.