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Boomers say that because historically, with increasing age people usually also managed to have some things they might want to conserve, like a home and some financial assets to cover their retirement. I’m in my mid thirties and the only feasible way for me to ever own a home is inheriting one. My retirement plan is to die in the revolution. I have nothing to be conservative about
I’m in my 30s and fortunate to have a house, but as I age I become more liberal.
I grew up with conservative parents and mostly conservative extended family as well. It wasn’t until I was older and in college that I started to become liberal. Before that I considered myself a Libertarian because I hated the two-party system and didn’t identify closely with any other parties.
I can’t imagine anyone that isn’t in the the top 1% that considers themselves conservative unless it’s based purely on hate or ignorance.
Generally, what it used to be is that people got more liberal as they got older, but society became more liberal faster.
Nowadays, millennials are getting older and mostly keeping up with liberal trends because we have so little invested in the status quo to slow us down from changing with the times. Amongst other factors.
Liberalism and conservatism IS the status quo. I was a conservative growing up and as I read and got more interested in political theory and philosophy and read a shit ton of books about it I’ve moved all the way over to straight up communist.
Join us.
But I’ve always said I’m on whatever side I think will improve the lives of the working class and the general population. I currently think that communism is the way towards that.
Heh, I speak of 'got more liberal' here as in 'believing in liberal values', ie the humanist values that the Enlightenment established as an academic norm but have only slowly been trickling down into the actual population, rather than more ideologically liberal in the sense of the 19th century capitalist incarnation of Enlightenment values and its modern descendants. I'm a socdem, but more because I'm not convinced that the organizational technology is at the point to make non-market socialism competitive with traditional capitalist and mixed-economy states rather than a belief that it's not inevitable at some point that capitalism will collapse.
Well the thing is that you can compete with capitalist countries, working within capitalism, while still being lead by Marxist beliefs.
It is important to do this properly, or else the US global hegemony will destroy you. They will certainly attempt to regardless.
Finally bought my first home at 40 using all my life savings. Couldn't afford to have kids. I got no one to leave any heritage to. Fuck everything.
Basically, "people are selfish and will do what benefits them"
Except when they vote against their own interest
Which I'd say is a pretty right-wing sentiment