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Elon Musk’s vocal support for Donald Trump and promotion of far-right conspiracy theories has alienated many Tesla owners, who now express embarrassment over their cars.

Sales of anti-Musk stickers, such as “Anti Elon Tesla Club,” have surged as owners distance themselves from Musk’s politics.

Once admired by liberals for his environmental advocacy, Musk’s alignment with Trump and leadership in his administration have sparked backlash.

While Tesla remains the dominant EV maker, analysts warn Musk’s polarizing image may impact sales as competition grows and Trump plans to cut EV tax incentives.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They are very much competing.You're just confused about what they're competing in. It's profit, not size of vehicle, or efficiency or what have you. The F-150 is still the top selling vehicle in North America. Turns out small vehicles make less profit so they stopped making them and inflated the size of all remaining models.

[–] FireRetardant 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Which is defintely a great strategy to reduce transportation emissions. And clearly everyone NEEDS a truck.

[–] FlowVoid -3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Car companies sell what customers want, not what they need.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Wants that have been created from decades of propaganda by the auto industry.

[–] FlowVoid -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Do you want a truck too? Or are you the only person capable of resisting the power of auto industry propaganda?

The fact that people in different places do not all want the same cars is strong evidence that their wants result from human agency, not auto propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, not all people are immediately going to buy a giant truck because of propaganda. But it doesn't have to be everybody, it just has to influence enough people to change the trend over time.

[–] FlowVoid 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If so, people would be buying as many trucks in the EU and Japan as we do. They've had just as much time as we have.

[–] FireRetardant 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Look what is on the roads in nearly any other country and you will realize that north Americans have way more personal pick ups and massive SUVs. If you ever see an american SUV like a suburban in a place like Japan or a european city, it looks super out of place compared to the other cars on the road.

[–] FlowVoid 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's my point. Those countries have the same auto companies we do. If "auto propaganda" was responsible for people buying trucks, then those countries would be full of trucks too.

[–] FireRetardant 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Those countries don't have to follow flawed CAFE standards that make trucks and SUVs easy to build while holding smaller cars to much higher emissions standards.

[–] FlowVoid 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, the EU also has emissions standards that are more stringent for smaller cars.

[–] FireRetardant 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And those regulations also make larger vehicles follow stricter standards which makes the smaller cars still more competitive than US markets.

[–] FlowVoid 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

OK, so if various features make Europeans not want trucks as much as Americans do, then auto propaganda is not what determines what people want.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

A want a decent electric sedan/hatchback but here we are.

A SUV is too big for what I need.

[–] FireRetardant 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The SUV costs more upfront, costs more to recharge, has larger tires which cost more and pollute more. The costs really add up fast if you are living on a budget.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

So far I'm sticking with Toyota as they're generally reliable and common enough that spare parts are relatively cheap and the tire size makes it not a huge expense, but they sure take their sweet fucking time to bring EVs on their sedan range..

[–] FlowVoid 0 points 2 days ago

There's the Bolt, Leaf, MachE, Ioniq...

[–] FireRetardant 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Or are car companies only offering the bigger models because they make more profits?

[–] FlowVoid 1 points 2 days ago

The Chevy Bolt, a subcompact EV, has been around since 2016. The Nissan Leaf has been around since 2010.

Subcompacts of all types, EV and ICE alike, simply don't sell as well as trucks in the US.