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Because to me, they seem like de facto "Agree and "Disagree" buttons, whether or not it was the intent.

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[–] NegentropicBoy 53 points 1 week ago (4 children)

"Agree and “Disagree” will just leave us in a Lemmy bubble.

They should be more about "good post or bad post", so something that may be disagreeable gets upvotes if it is well stated.

Reward thought, creativity, etc, and let us all learn.

[–] Brewchin 27 points 1 week ago

Agreed.

  • Upvote: Adds to the community.
  • Downvote: Doesn't belong in this community.
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Iheartcheese 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Agree. Upvoted.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

They should be more about “good post or bad post”, so something that may be disagreeable gets upvotes if it is well stated.

I don't care how well stated some anti-vax or flat-earth bullshit is ... It'll get downvoted regardless because I disagree.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That would just be misinformation, something downvote was intended for.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That would just be misinformation

Sure, according to us. But you don't actually need to be right to think you're right. If someone believes the earth is flat, they'll downvote "globe-talk" as misinformation, just as it was intended! So it all just comes back to (dis)agreeing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Of course, but these examples are provably false. Flat earthers have accidentally disproved themselves many times.

If they are just having a giggle then whatever, but some are serious and that is damaging to the legitimacy of science, which is a dangerous path.

If the poster is open to discussion, perhaps some chat could make them reconsider their position. So I wouldnt necessarily downvote. Context is important, so I still wont just use it as a disagree button.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I know and I chose those two examples to illustrate that people will even disagree with stuff that is blatantly factual. So it just gets worse if you enter murkier territory, like politics or ethics where there is no firm factual basis.

I'm sure you won't have to search too long for a very well written post by some tanky about how a North Korean style dictatorship is superior to western democracy. Should you upvote it just because it's well written, even if you think the idology is insane and dangerous?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Don't forget, I don't have to vote either way.

[–] Iheartcheese 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That would be nice but, no, it's the agree/disagree button just like Reddit. There is honestly very little difference between Lemmy and reddit. Mostly just the numbers.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It wasn’t meant to be an agree/disagree button on Reddit either.

It’s meant for upvoting posts that contribute to the topic/community and downvoting stuff that doesn’t, such as spam or trolling.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

People get emotional over a comment and click the downvote as it makes them feel empowered, that's how it always ends up. Maybe just having upvotes only would work better.

[–] Feathercrown 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Upvote only doesn't necessarily work better because it encourages controversially good content rather than unambiguously good content

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Some instances only have upvotes. For example, mine.

[–] Iheartcheese 1 points 1 week ago

Yep. Didn't work out that way though just like it didn't work out that way here

[–] spankmonkey 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

When you upvote a funny comic, does that mean you agree with it? Do you agree with cute cat pics?

It is more than just agree/disagree.