this post was submitted on 27 Nov 2024
439 points (98.5% liked)

politics

19168 readers
4028 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Summary

Senator Mike Rounds (R-SD) introduced the Returning Education to Our States Act, aiming to abolish the U.S. Department of Education, a long-time Republican goal aligned with Trump’s agenda.

The bill proposes redistributing the department’s $200 billion budget and responsibilities to other federal agencies and states, such as shifting federal student loans to the Treasury.

Critics warn this could undermine protections for students with disabilities and marginalized groups.

While the bill faces significant political hurdles, it reflects broader GOP efforts to reduce federal influence over education policy.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] captainlezbian 61 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Ok yes I’m concerned about marginalized and disabled students, but I’m mostly concerned about Americans being too damn dumb already

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice 26 points 6 days ago (2 children)

10 mins later: Mississippi is introducing a mandated co-op middle and high school. Where students only need to be in class 2 days a week and get hands on experience in desirable fields such as farming/agriculture. You just have to work 2 days a week to make sure you get your credits to get to the next grade!

[–] SupraMario 21 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Don't read up on "no child left behind" then, it's been a huge reason a ton of kids are basically illiterate. Our dept of education doesn't need to be abolished, it needs to be properly funded, so more schools can be built and teachers can be paid more with smaller class sizes.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice 8 points 6 days ago

I know all about it. 35. So it came into law when I was 11.

[–] Ledivin 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's not funding, we give more money per student than any other country in the world. We just suck at it and nobody gives a fuck except the teachers - no admins, no students, and no parents.

[–] SupraMario 5 points 6 days ago

While this is true, the funding is heavily disproportionately handed out...and yea misused. You can see it in schools for the richer neighborhoods and then the poor ones as well.

[–] AA5B -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Are you just repeating what you hear on Fox News? There are lots of reasons to object to NCLB, but lower standards isn’t one of them

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Child_Left_Behind_Act

[–] SupraMario 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Uhh no, I talk with teachers, two of which are family members. The fuck? Just because someone is against a bullshit law doesn't make them a repub who watches faux news...the hell.

[–] AA5B 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Criticism of nclb is usually the incentive to teach to the test and on punishing schools that need help. Kids may get shortchanged on learning how to think, and on all the material not on the test. However reading is on the test. It’s an attempt to establish standards for reading and to raise them

[–] SupraMario 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The issue with the tests is that the funding is tied to the testing. So poorer schools either flub the tests with the kids and not teach them anything or lose funding.

Standardized testing is the dumbest thing on the planet, and it's even stupider tying it to funding.

[–] buzz86us -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well TBH there needs to be more classes on basic skills.. I mean knowing about history is nice, but I would have appreciated more classes on wood working, plumbing, tax preparation, and basic vehicle maintenance.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Then figure out what you want and go to a trade school. Where do you live (state). Even Tennessee will pay for that if you live there. Trade schools were promoted by Obama when he tried to figure out free education. Yet the majority of voters faught it. That isn't the majority of people, it just means people like you, who want trade school made as an investment for the future was chopped short. But it doesn't mean it's over. Talk to your city, , county, state they may have people you can call for assistance. Often times, it's either the Catholic Church or government. Either doesn't matter. The Catholics won't require you to attend church or pledge some shit, they just want to know you fit their wage requirements to help as many people as possible.

[–] Ledivin 3 points 6 days ago

Learning basic plumbing shouldn't require that you become a plumber. Learning basic finances shouldn't require that you become an economist.

Simple life skills should be the norm in art least high school, but we don't give a fuck about children in this country.

[–] buzz86us 2 points 6 days ago

It shouldn't have to be in trade school though

[–] asteriskeverything 10 points 6 days ago

Duh. That's because :

“The federal Department of Education has never educated a single student, and it’s long past time to end this bureaucratic department that causes more harm than good,” Rounds said

/s

[–] AnUnusualRelic 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But can they actually be made dumber?

[–] captainlezbian 6 points 6 days ago

They re-elected the guy who gave the department of education to a member of the Amway (prolific pyramid scheme) family, so honestly I’m not going to say no, but the rich have clearly started tossing industrial excavation tools into the hole we find ourselves in.