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Crowd cheered as two transgender women were attacked in Minneapolis, advocates say
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Regardless of their politician position, Lemmy users aren't exactly know for being passive push overs. Those types stayed on Reddit.
I'm slightly confused with this comment. Anything pro2a on lemmy gets massively downvoted and or removed. Lemmy is filled with antigun people. Hell look at my comment on this, people probably have me tagged as a gun nut and automatically downvote me. Not that I give a shit, but it shows how ignorant they are.
Lemmy users are most definitely passive pushovers when it comes to defense.
Lemmy, like myself, if of two kinds of firearms. On one hand their proliferation throughout America has created an unending slaughter of children. That’s bad. But when a black history teacher that I’m friends with tells me to get a cc permit as a white trans woman maybe both of us should carry.
So yeah guns for oppressed minorities, mass disarmament of Nazis. But let’s be real, the inverse will happen
Massive straw man. I downvoted you for making assumptions about the lemmy user base.
Lol ok, you're delusional if you think lemmy users are even remotely progun.
Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.
-Karl Marx
Cool, those who believe that fine, but the majority don't.
Wow you doubled down on that straw man, nice job, do you work for the NRA or what?
Because this is the exact sort of straw man the NRA uses when it comes to the left and guns.
Lol I consider myself a progressive, I voted for harris...the fuck type of bullshit strawman is "NRA talk". Most of the left is antigun, if you think this isn't true you're delusional.
You're conflating gun control with being anti-gun. Which is the NRA's favorite straw man for the left's position. And the same straw man you keep using.
https://www.factandmyth.com/gun-laws-restrictions/pro-gun-arguments-myths-fallacies
Also, I won't keep arguing. The downvotes you're receiving are because you're using NRA propaganda. Not because lemmy is antigun.
Lemmy is antigun and gun control is antigun. Stop getting them confused. I've had this argument plenty here on lemmy, and have presented tons of evidence that the majority of the left would ban guns if they had the ability to do so.
You don't get to shout for an AWB, registration, wanting only approved places to shoot, banning basically everything but small calibers, making the cost via taxes be so high that only the rich could own them, etc. and say that your not antigun.
Because that's your argument. Death by 1000 cuts comes into play here. When you effectively make it impossible to own something but then allow for a few fringe cases to exist, and say "well you can own it see". You have effectively banned it, without banning it.
And I'm not using proNRA trash. The NRA is a shit organization and can go bankrupt for all I care. Stop conflating the two.
Centrist liberals are the "left" you are referring to, here. The average Lemmy user skews a bit to the left of that. If you go far enough to the actual left you get your guns back, as long as you are a prole, anyways.
Look into groups like the SRA if you want to see what I mean.
SRA still has people in it that are for large amounts of restrictions. Believe me I've been all over the place with understanding each groups thoughts on guns.
Lol. He is too busy fucking with you too explain. The NRA strawman is "they're coming for your guns." They've built their entire organization around that BS. It's easy to look at a country like Iceland, see their murder rate and think, "fuck, why can't we do that?"
But it wouldn't work in the US. Guns are a part of the culture.. it's in the constitution.. bla bla. Most people on the left (obviously, not everyone) are able to do the math and realize, the US is not Iceland. What most people want is the bare minimum restrictions on them. And the other side says, "any restriction at all is one step away from THEY'RE COMING FOR YOUR GUNS!"
You sound like you actually want the government to go take people's guns, thus, fueling the strawman.
You replying to the right person? Cause i sure as fuck am not this person at all. I'm very pro-2a, like nearly 0 restrictions, pro-2a.
I replied to the right person, but I did misread what you wrote. I should have said "you think Lemmy users want the government to take people's guns."
Ah, well in that case...yea I do think that because the majority would be completely fine with it. That's not something that's hard to fathom. Plenty would be fine with having gun owners thrown in jail for not giving up their guns.
Propaganda works.
No, people don't want to be banned or tracked for making certain types of statements that might be in violation of ToS(or local laws), so they dance around what they actually mean.
Lol no they do not. There is no ToS or even state/local laws in the USA that make it illegal to discuss owning firearms. The fuck are you on about? Reddit would have banned all the firearm subs a long time ago if this was the case. Lemmy users are mainly antigun, this isnt rocket science.
Your first comment in this chain is surprise about the up votes for support for armed self defense, you then insist that Lenny users don't support gun ownership... Clearly Lemmy users support self defense. The push back I see comes from people bringing their assault rifles to do grocery shopping like some emotional support dog.
Also, an anti gun Queer person from ten years may have changed their stance by now as the situation gets more desperate. There's no clear path for disarming every citizen and when even the State is directly hostile to your existence, you may decide that the safest path forward is to level the field.
Also, the ToS/laws comment is about what you may need a gun for that's not exactly legal, but again, when the State makes your existence illegal, that stops being important.
The majority of lemmy users do not support gun ownership. This is just a flat out lie.
You can search for gun, and you're flooded with heavily upvoted antigun rhetoric. Let's stop pretending it's even remotely progun.
I'm all for arming people, an minority is harder to oppress.
*citation needed
If your talking about the Meal Team Six posts, those people deserve ridicule.
Absolutely, but there isn't a need for AI images like that when people already do that shit anyways. Those people absolutely get trashed even on the progun side of things. We love to make fun of them.