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PEOPLE FALLING FOR THIS SHIT AGAIN IS INSANE !
They haven't removed the Pythagorean theorem, it seems to be taught in lower grades. This is Pythagorean theorem for the similarity of triangles, which was dropped to remove burden during pandemic.
Periodic tables and evolution are moved to one or two grade higher. NOT DROPPED.
There you go. Now you have the facts. Enjoy the rest of your day 🫡
Evolution is dropped from mandatory and is only taught to students who opt to learn biology, after high school.
What the hell are you talking about!? It says in the article that these three subjects have been moved out of mandatory learning.
Meaning that most Indian students won't understand the basic principles of evolution or the most simple understanding of the composition of elements.
Not considering either of these three to be essential mandatory learning is insane.
The syllabus includes of related topics way before in 6th or 7th grade. Some of them are often repeated (may be even intentionally). They learn about elements and their composition in 7th or 8th grade. After having all that, if student is inclined to it they learn more in 11th and 12th grades. Most of students follow up to 12th in India. If you are so concerned go check the textbooks yourself - https://ncert.nic.in/textbook.php
Although I don’t suppose most people won’t do that because why put the effort to understand things when you can spew dumb opinions around ?
The reason the topics were rationalised to improve remote learning and reduce burden on students during exams in a country where suicide rates among students due to exams and societal pressures is a real concern.
The way people have been reacting to this is as if students coming out of school are dumb fucks with no scientific knowledge. I bet the ones commenting here doesn’t even know half of what those students know.
Again, quoting the article, it says that many students (although maybe not most) will graduate without an understanding of these three subjects.
How can that be considered a positive, and what's even more; acceptable?!
If I have to teach you about sub par quality of articles on the internet, I won’t. Learn it yourself.
Oh good; so it stands between your credibility; some rando fucking wise guy on the internet and that of the German Public Broadcasting service....
lmfao
Lol. Welcome to the internet. I don't have anything more for you sorry. Stay safe.
What secondary sources do you propose we trust? Deutsche-Welle has a reputation for fact-checking and retractions. What's your source that students who don't major in math or biology will learn these?
the source is the link to the ncert textbooks he linked, Go through that from 7th Grade to 10th. "Douche-willi".
That doesn’t answer any of my questions.
that's because you didn't even take the effort to read even the index pages. You want to believe what you are already believing. Stop trying to act like you care.
The article says that only students who choose to major in a subject will learn the information's 11th and 12th grade subject textbooks. I don't see how the textbooks themselves will tell me anything on Indian majors, especially textbooks from 10th grade and below. I feel like I'm missing something:
Students will learn about pythagoras theorem and some trigonometry and periodic table starting from at least 7th grade. Just not at the advanced level it used to be. Unless they choose Science stream. They will learn what an atom is and very basics about it.
The textbook answers your previous comment. "What’s your source that students who don’t major in math or biology will learn these?" It is still in the textbook and is taught in school. Source: I have a brother studying in 10th Grade.
That douche-willy is wrong.
I thought this conversation was about whether students who don't major in biology or chemistry will learn about evolution or the periodic table if the simplification was to proceed. Apparently, it wasn't, being a duplicate of this instead.
As seen in this parent thread above and in the edit I made to the post about 4 hours ago, this simplification was axed a week after this article was published. (However, that didn't stop Google from prioritizing outdated information.)
10th grade is mandatory but 90% of students who studied till 10th WILL study 11th and 12th. In 10th grade they WILL learn pythagoras theorem periodic table and evolution, just not as deep into it as it used to.
It says in the post that 10th grade is the last mandatory grade, so this means many students will miss out on learning about evolution, no?
Correct. After 10th grade, you can choose a "stream" (course). You can choose between science, commerce, or humanities. What's worse is that each stream has multiple branches, and biology is not included in all the branches. So if you were to choose computer science branch in the science stream, you will not take any biology classes.
So a vast majority of students would never learn about some very important scientific concepts if this was implemented, but I'm not sure if they reversed this decision or not.
I know nothing of India's education system. Does this mean it's in an optional class now or is this totally wrong?
Its totally correct, 10th is last mandatory grade, after that you can choose which subject you wanna study for 11th and 12th
that's just your hypotenuse
Kids in india in a few years: the sum of the square of the cathedrals equals the hypothesis
as said below, that’s the last mandatory grade
could you source that?
See for yourself in old textbook (page 144)
https://archive.org/details/mathematics-textbook-class-10-2006-ncert/page/144/mode/2up
Thanks.
Source: Me and my little cousin.
Thank you
That's what the article says and nothing about the title conflicts with it. These are all pretty basic concepts that should be taught early.
Also 'cuz I'd like to see how they could progress in the curricula without Pythagoras and the periodic table.
Thanks for that. I hate people who leave out important information and context. They are evil.
Except this comment seems to leave out that mandatory science education stops in India at 10th grade, so the periodic table and evolution will not be taught to Indian students unless they pursue higher grades of education.
Edit: It appears all of this is also moot, since a comment below pointed out that these things have been added back into the curriculum:
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/evolution-periodic-table-to-stay-part-of-class-9-10-syllabus/articleshow/101058188.cms
Well, I'd need to repeat my comment below yours again.
You’re right, and I’m sorry for the immediate reaction without further research, I can only hope my edited comment sheds more light on the issue