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[–] Questy 126 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Having elected a fascist autocrat, who already prepared the way by having the supreme court declare him above the law. Living in the country with the most militarized police, a nation with a massive capability to spy on it's own citizens, citizens who have little critical thinking capability to begin with. A society where social media creates the reality those poorly educated citizens live in, and social media is owned by oligarchs who benefit from a system where pleasing one narcissistic leader gives them power over regulators and increases their wealth more rapidly. I think people are a little optimistic to believe we can't call the next election today.

[–] Foreigner 61 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ding ding ding! This is the right answer folks. US citizens will be lucky to get fair elections (if at all) for the foreseeable future. There is no counterweight to what lies ahead, the doors to hell have been opened and no one is coming to save you. If you are in the US, you have the following choices: leave, survive (read: assimilate or hide), or fight.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you are in the US, you have the following choices: leave, survive (read: assimilate or hide), or fight.

If you're wealthy and worth a shit you can leave. No country on earth worth moving to will accept my worthless factory worker ass...

I just watched a video about "easiest countries for an American to move to" and was infuriated... I was expecting countries with low standards for acceptance except this is all it was:

1)digital nomad and retirees

2)digital nomad and retirees

3)digital nomad and retirees

4)digital nomad and retirees

5)digital nomad and retirees

...for fucks sake those people already have the world to choose from... Guess I'll just suffer.

[–] Foreigner 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'm sorry, it mega sucks and unfortunately you can only pick from the other two remaining options. If you're not part of the targeted minorities or vocally a part of the opposition, here are some tips on assimilation:

  • Keep your head down and keep a low profile
  • Stay out of any media attention at all costs
  • Be VERY careful with who you trust - denunciations are a common tool used by fascist governments to find targets. Avoid pissing off anyone who could throw you to the wolves.
  • Button up any communications that could ever be construed as a slight against the ruling party. That means getting off social media, browsing and communicating on the internet completely anonymously, stop using devices and software that can spy on you. Wipe anything that can be interpreted as criticism of the ruling party that can be connected to you.
  • Keep any documents with proof of citizenship on you at all times
  • Start sounding like you've always supported the party and their ideas, or that you've suddenly "seen the way" and agree with them now.
  • This one is riskier in the long term as fascists eventually start eating one another, but if you can, try to get a low level position in the party. Something inconsequential like cleaning, paperwork, etc.

Essentially, start studying what other people did to survive under similarly oppressive regimes. The change won't happen overnight, but if this is going the way I think it's going, your access to options will become increasingly limited so do what you can now to get ready.

Alternatively, wait until it becomes clear that you're a political target, travel somewhere where you can get refugee status and claim asylum once you're there. You don't want to leave this until it's too late, and it'll get increasingly harder to do, but there's no way to tell yet what the trigger could be.

[–] dhork 6 points 1 month ago

Keep any documents with proof of citizenship on you at all times

US Passport cards are really handy for that. all the identity power of a passport book, but in a card you can keep in your wallet. Anyone who "looks foreign" at all should get one and carry it with you at all times. You shouldn't have to, but you should anyway.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I appreciate the advice!

[–] militaryintelligence 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Nah. I'm just gonna get louder. Might even fly massive Harris flags

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

The Orange Hitler is on track to take power and you wanna put up a flag to support America's Chancellor Paul von Hindenburg. XD

[–] militaryintelligence 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'll fight. There's a line that I draw: if they start deporting legal immigrants I will be a domestic terrorist, just like the GOP

Strange, I can't find a picture of the banner that said exactly that at cpac. Just like the GOP said, nah I'm just kidding

[–] Foreigner 3 points 1 month ago

Hey man, you do what you have to do. Good luck either way!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think they’re a little optimistic to assume any elections that aren’t Putin style going forward. We are done as We The People. The American Experiment is over.

That feeling in your belly? That need to huddle with your people, in closeness and silence? It’s the waiting room. Because you don’t know what we are going to be yet, but it’s not going to be a democracy and it’s not going to be America.

Wishful thinking is part of how we got here.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Big difference between this and 2016 is JD Vance is the adult, not Mike Pence. His ties to Peter Thiel is scary. Also we just had a billionaire buy votes, no way that is going to stop now.

[–] cmbabul 2 points 1 month ago

I seriously never thought I would wish we had Mike Pence in a position of influence

[–] fluxion 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well we can bend over and spread our cheeks or we can at least make it as difficult as possible and maintain whatever last rays of hope that we can. It's the least we can do if we really are the last real American citizens.

Trump certainly didn't roll over and apparently that pays off in surprising ways sometimes.