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[–] FlashMobOfOne 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's simple, and history has borne this out many many times.

In a bad economy, no one cares about your politics if you're the candidate of change. There's a reason why Harris spent two months repeating memes instead of defending Biden's policies, because it's impossible to defend the fact that you had four years to rule and there are more people working 2-3 jobs just to survive.

They knew they needed to appeal to workers. Instead, they spent most of the campaign repeating this meaningless platitude about joy to people who are being worked to death.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In a bad economy, no one cares about your politics

That's no excuse for electing someone whose stated policies and politics will fuck the economy even further and faster.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Sure it is, if you don't understand economics, which few Merkins do. The evidence is right in front of us.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Also, there were plenty of people who were never going to vote for a woman, no matter what.

[–] FlashMobOfOne 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I'm sure that's true too, but that's not the reason she lost, and Democrats will continue to stack losses if that's the narrative that they go with.

Democrats haven't been ceding male voters to Republicans for 16 years because they hate women. It's because, in the liberal and activist communities, it's become customary and accepted to treat men like shit.

[–] kava 5 points 1 month ago

It’s because, in the liberal and activist communities, it’s become customary and accepted to treat men like shit.

this is just as dumb as the opposite "they didn't vote for Kamala because she's a woman"

people don't like Kamala because she's an extension of Joe Biden and Biden has been a failure. that's why she lost. she offered status quo when people want change. the DNC is incapable of changing quick enough to avoid fascism

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Democrats will continue to stack losses if that's the narrative that they go with

$20 says that or race is the narrative they go with.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd never take that bet, they already started today You can find them in threads across the fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh yeah, it's a sucker's bet, I was just hoping to find a sucker who would take it

[–] FlashMobOfOne 2 points 1 month ago

I wouldn't be surprised.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Plenty of people will also never vote for a black man, but that worked spectacularly for the Democrats the first time.

[–] stoly 4 points 1 month ago

Don’t forget immigrants who hate immigrants.

[–] Anticorp 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Then maybe don't force a woman onto the ballot in "the most important election of our lifetime". I'm all for progress, but you don't win elections by forcing ideals upon people who won't have them, and if this was truly the most important election of our lifetime, then the Democrats should have fielded their most appealing candidate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah if the DNC really gave as much credence to the vote power of racism and misogyny as they do when complaining about election losses, then why would they deliberately step on that landmine by selecting kamala only 8 years after HRC? It's not like we think idealistic dreamers run the DNC right? That's silly.

Why did Dems lose the Senate? Keep the house? Cuz its more than just Harris here.... What we're seeing is voter repudiation of the last 4 years.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

If that's why Kamala lost, then explain why Tammy Baldwin is winning Wisconsin and Elissa Slotkin is winning in Michigan.