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Israeli officials said Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar was killed by Israel Defense Forces in the southern Gaza Strip on Wednesday. Hamas has not commented publicly on the reports.

Sinwar was the mastermind of the Oct. 7 terror attacks, which killed 1,200 people and set off Israel's year-long war against Hamas in Gaza. Israel has made killing him a key objective, and may now be more willing to scale back its military operations in Gaza.

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[–] Wilzax 60 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So this means the fighting will stop now, right?

...right?

[–] FlowVoid 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well, Israeli war aims included diminishing Hamas. But they also included returning any hostages who are still alive. So I think the fighting will continue at least in the short term.

[–] LordCrom 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You forgot "Get all the waterfront land"

[–] InverseParallax -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nobody wants Gaza land, it's a shit hole.

They tried to ignore Gaza before Oct 7, they were focused on the west bank settlements that were actually not garbage.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The Gaza Marine natural gas field, discovered by British Gas in 1999, is located off the coast of Gaza and contains an estimated 1 trillion cubic feet of natural gas[1][2]. Despite its potential to boost the Palestinian economy, development has been hindered by political and security issues, particularly Israeli restrictions and conflicts with Hamas[3]. The field's development was approved by Israel in June 2023 as part of broader regional cooperation efforts, but ongoing tensions continue to complicate progress[2][5]. The field's strategic importance has been highlighted amid global energy shifts following the Russia-Ukraine conflict[1][4].

Citations: [1] Behind Israel's 'end game' for Gaza: Theft of offshore gas reserves https://www.workers.org/2023/11/74864/ [2] Israel-Hamas war: What will happen to Gaza's natural gas field? https://www.jpost.com/business-and-innovation/energy-and-infrastructure/article-774864 [3] Natural gas in the Gaza Strip - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_gas_in_the_Gaza_Strip [4] The war on Gaza is also an Israeli drive to seize Palestinian gas ... https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/war-gaza-israel-brutal-drive-seize-palestinian-gas-reserves [5] Is natural gas the real reason for the genocide in Gaza? - DiEM25 https://diem25.org/is-natural-gas-the-real-reason-for-the-genocide-in-gaza/ [6] Israel sets its sights on Gaza's offshore gas - The New Arab https://www.newarab.com/analysis/israel-sets-its-sights-gazas-offshore-gas [7] How a Gaza Marine Deal Could Benefit Palestinians, Israelis and ... https://www.usip.org/publications/2023/08/how-gaza-marine-deal-could-benefit-palestinians-israelis-and-region [8] Israel gives nod to Gaza Marine gas development, wants ... - Reuters https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/israel-gives-nod-gaza-marine-gas-development-wants-security-assurances-2023-06-18/

[–] InverseParallax 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

There's so much more elsewhere, Israel has been developing offshore gas everywhere around there, and wouldn't give a shit about Gazan claims anyway.

The west bank has Jerusalem and nice, arable land, some of the best in Palestine, they're desperate for it.

They would much rather continue to slowly settle all of the west bank while leaving Gaza as a super-slum and proof that all of Palestine are Hamas.

Nobody, and I mean NOBODY wants Gaza, not Egypt (they were asked and said fuck no), not Israel, just nobody.

I'm not worried about Israel ever annexing Gaza, the most they might do is glass it when it gets inconvenient enough.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan_gas_field - actually useful gas field.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If all the people are dead and you've bulldozed all the buildings, is it still a slum?

[–] InverseParallax 1 points 1 month ago

I think the word you are specifically looking for is ghetto. And there is a very good reason for that word in particular.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

perpetually missing hostages that will never be confirmed alive or dead?

[–] InverseParallax 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I mean, that's kind of on Hamas, no?

[–] hark 4 points 1 month ago

No, that's on israel that actually does not care about the hostages and intentionally torpedoed all negotiations and even killed some of them themselves.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

hamas doesn't know if they're alive or dead either, considering their command structure is dead

[–] InverseParallax 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They don't know because they didn't care.

It was just terror factor for them, they didn't care what happened, who got hurt, just brutality for brutality's sake.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i'm pretty sure they made demands asking for palestinians to be released from israeli prisons and I'm pretty sure israel rejected those demands

[–] InverseParallax 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's exactly the same as attacking, raping, murdering and kidnapping civilians by surprise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

do you believe hamas members are non-human? because it feels like you're trying to convince me they are non-human

[–] FlowVoid 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Sadly, rape and murder are all too human evils.

Maybe they are trying to convince you that Hamas is evil.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

i didn't need to be convinced of that

[–] hark 0 points 1 month ago

Are you talking about hamas or israel?

[–] AstridWipenaugh 2 points 1 month ago

It's impossible to stop now. There's no leader for Israel to negotiate a ceasefire with, so they're just going to have to keep doing the lord's work until there's nobody left to slaughter.