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A Wisconsin woman accused of stabbing her classmate to please horror character Slender Man more than a decade ago asked a judge again Friday to release her from a psychiatric hospital.

Morgan Geyser, who is now 22 years old, filed a petition with Waukesha County Circuit Judge Michael Bohren seeking her release from the Winnebago Mental Health Institute. The petition marks the third time in the last two years she has asked Bohren to let her out of the facility. 

She withdrew her first petition two months after filing it in 2022. Bohren denied her second request this past April, saying she remains a risk to the public.

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[–] Dainterhawk999 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Just a question... Are there any mental health issues which cannot be treated? As you have worked in psychiatry, any input will be highly appreciated.

[–] Valmond 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Schizophrenia can be untreatable.

Fachism sometimes too. \j

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Of course, Hitchcock was his own sort of petty fascist on a film set (and a rapist), so he was probably not the best person to deliver that message.

I don't disagree, I'm just saying...

[–] drunkpostdisaster 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's why we don't let those people become presidents

[–] FlyingSquid 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] drunkpostdisaster 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Kind of meant entertainers in general.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To be fair, Al Franken was a great senator. The "scandal" that took him down was bullshit too.

[–] drunkpostdisaster 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, but he might as well be a unicorn

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Psychologist here, depends on what you mean by treated. Most mental illnesses aren't like a cold where you're able to take some medication and get rid of it, they're more like a chronic back injury that you learn to manage. For most people, some combination of therapy and chemical treatment is sufficient to allow them to live a life where their mental health is managed. There are people whom chemical treatment doesn't work on, sometimes because of unhealthy brain chemistry, and who are unwilling or unable to participate in therapy. Unfortunately for these people, there's not much that can be done for them short of a miracle.

[–] Dainterhawk999 3 points 1 month ago

Thank You for such a exhaustive reply... Treated meant can it be like a pill based solution... But as you mentioned it doesn't work that way

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have you had any patients with a history of violence at this level?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't work with patients, and my area of research doesn't have much overlap with psychopathy or schizotypal behavior thankfully. My research subjects are screened to try and exclude people with those traits beforehand. I've known colleagues that have spent some time working for prison populations though, so if your question is whether I think this particular girl is beyond saving, not even close. Some of the stories my colleagues have told me about patients they had at prison, patients that scared them even when an armed guard was present, those patients don't typically feel remorseful for what they've done or even acknowledge it was wrong. It seems like in this case, the girl got wrapped up in a fantasy that was encouraged when she was young by her friend, and nobody was there to intervene and push her back to reality. It's just a sad tragedy. If anything, I'd be more worried about her succumbing to depression due to guilt.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

My question was essentially “Are you speaking from experience or theory?”

Sounds like the answer is theory.

If you’d worked with someone who’d done attempted murder to this level, then seen them go on to lead an otherwise evil-free life, I’d consider that seriously.

[–] TrousersMcPants 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I worked (admittedly as a custodian, so not an expert at all) in close contact with people who had antipersonality disorder. These were people who had been convicted of sexual assault and had served a sentence then had been deemed unfit to return to society. I don't believe any of them could get any amount of treatment that would have made them truly safe around others, even if they behaved well on their wards.

Mental illness can almost never truly be cured, and some people can be simply too dangerous to be allowed complete freedom. It's sad to think about, but I think until we have a better understanding of the mind and how to better treat people with issues like this, it's better that certain people stay "locked up" as it were. So long as they are given humane treatment and accommodations, of course.

[–] Dainterhawk999 2 points 1 month ago

The mind or brain is so intricately wired that understanding it a quite a big task... But hope so one day medical research can bring solution to mental health problems... Till then fingers crossed

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Even though three others have chimed in, as OP I'm gonna give it a go as well.

First off, I'm definitely not an expert. My job was mainly to stay with people who had been constrained to their bed, using leather straps. Other times to make sure the patient had as much freedom as possible, without doing certain things. So pretty low level stuff, like talking, minding my own business, and occasionally dodging fecal matter (not figuratively!)

I met adults who had been psychotic since their early teens. And I met people who were admitted on account of a bad reaction to drugs, mainly marijuana, resulting in them being aggressive and delusional. Then the next week they would be calm and rational, behaving like you and me.

I can't tell you what can be treated, and what can't. But I can tell you that I've met people who did stop being psychotic for the rest of their life. And I can tell you that far far most patients were able to, periodically, live somewhat ordinary lives after getting help.