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Justin Trudeau survives no-confidence vote in Canadian parliament (www.bbc.com)
submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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While vote to topple his government has failed, it signals a new series of tests for the prime minister.

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[–] TheFeatureCreature -4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Delaying the inevitable. He should have stepped down when he had the chance. His pride is going to give his party a catastrophic election loss.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think he still has one chance - which he almost certainly won't take.

Announce that he'll step down when this term is up, and immediately hold a short leadership race, with the new leader vying for a brand new PM position.

To sweeten the pot, he could toss in proper PR electoral reform. It would throw cabinet into chaos, but the Greens and NDP would probably support it; and Trudeau would go down in history with the likes of Tommy Douglas as someone who fundamentally changed Canada for the better.

But his ego is too big for the first item, and the party is too scared to let him pull off the second.

So we're likely stuck with a fucking Christofascist neo-Nazi for our next PM.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's other options too. Among them: a massive swing away from corporate smell along with popular pro-labor rhetoric and actions; electoral reform without stepping down; Jagmeet introducing electoral reform in the current parliament, Trudeau supporting it, etc.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I like 'em, but I'm not convinced.

a massive swing away from corporate smell along with popular pro-labor rhetoric and actions

Corporations - which are already pretty damned conservative - will back the CPC with ten times the money if this happens. It would be lovely, but would guarantee a Poilievre win.

electoral reform without stepping down

That will prevent the CPC (or anyone else) from securing a majority in the next election, but I don't think it'll win the election for him.

Jagmeet introducing electoral reform in the current parliament, Trudeau supporting it

Ah, now that's interesting! I like this one quite a bit.

At the end of the day, I honestly don't believe Trudeau can win another election under any reasonable circumstances. The best he can do is stack the deck in the party's favour, and then step down.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Corporations - which are already pretty damned conservative - will back the CPC with ten times the money if this happens. It would be lovely, but would guarantee a Poilievre win.

I doubt it'll work. There are significant limits to political spending. Corpos can't fund political campaigns directly and there isn't an easy or unlimited way to do it indirectly. It's gotta go via individuals and the limits there are small. The cons will get more but I don't think it'll be dramatically more.

That will prevent the CPC (or anyone else) from securing a majority in the next election, but I don’t think it’ll win the election for him.

Yes.

At the end of the day, I honestly don’t believe Trudeau can win another election under any reasonable circumstances. The best he can do is stack the deck in the party’s favour, and then step down.

In the current status quo probably true. Who knows what could happen with PP till the election. Perhaps something unreasonable would come out. 😅

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I would take the delay along with the implementation of policies like pharmacare, and then have Poilinever having to either promise to not touch it or say he'll cut it during the election campaign, thank you very much. There's a lot that can happen till the next fall. Inflation is down, mortgages are falling, who knows what could come out about Pipsqueak till then.

[–] Duberstein 5 points 3 months ago

Don't know why you're being downvoted. I agree completely.

I've voted for Trudeau's Liberals since 2015 but I'm not casting another vote for them - not with him at the helm, nor Freeland for that matter.

If he had developed his bench and elevated others' profiles so he could pass the torch or brought in Carney earlier, then we'd have options but he's set the table this way. The ship will go down with him.

I'm not some F*ck Trudeau lunatic but he's been PM for nearly a decade - its time to go, dude.

I honestly can't think of the last PM who didn't overstay their welcome.