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No, I don't want to buy one. This came out of a discussion about my brother, who is so much weirder than me if you can believe it, who owns a real human skull.

I don't know how he got it. I don't know where he got it from, maybe this company, more importantly, I don't know why he would want such a thing. He is not a scientist, he works in IT. He did get an MFA in theater, wanted to be a professional theater director and loves Shakespeare, I can't believe the reason was because he wanted Hamlet to be super authentic.

We're not all that close, so it really hasn't come up in conversation. I only know about it because he posted elsewhere a while back that he was on a Zoom meeting at work and he showed it off and couldn't understand why everyone stopped laughing and got silent. So obviously he thinks it's cool to own it.

It used to be a person. I'm an atheist and I don't believe in an afterlife, but that's just basic disrespect.

Anyway... how can you ethically source a skull and then sell it on the open market?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Does it matter? I understand this could be emotionally sensitive for some people but the only reason I could see this being relevant is if my purchase somehow induced more slavery or genocide. That seems very unlikely—in fact I can think of a number of common purchases people make all the time without a second thought that are far more likely to encourage such crimes.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

I would be concerned that a market would take place, where money could be made selling them, creating more incentives to acquire skulls... you see where this is going?

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think it does matter, yes. I think it's exploiting a horrific tragedy. You don't know why the person is buying it. Maybe the person is buying the Holocaust victim skull because they're a Neo-Nazi and they intend to stomp on it at a party.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The possible future actions of a morally corrupt bigot have nothing to do with whether or not this collection of bones ought to be sold. I don't think they should be sold just because I think it's weird to purchase a person, even after death. But I don't think there's anything wrong with donating said bones to a research lab. The person who died is gone. They no longer exist. Only their loved ones matter in that they may be upset by the use of their remains.

Bones are relics and relics only have the value we ascribe to them.

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Would you say the same about an executed person's organs if they had no next of kin? China should be free to harvest them like they do now? The person who died is gone.

[–] Warl0k3 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The problem there isn't the use of the organs, but that they're murdering someone to harvest the organs.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 2 months ago

How do you know the skull wasn't harvested from the same prisoner?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sure, if someone died of natural causes. Use them to save someone who is otherwise dying.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I'm talking about the treatment of the dead, not China.