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(I'm trying to adjust my shopping habits for quality, long-lasting goods from reputable brands. This isn't some hailcorporate thing)

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[–] [email protected] 118 points 2 months ago (6 children)

There are tons of great quality brands. Until capitalism kills them and they become the same as the rest.

[–] Lost_My_Mind 50 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I remember when Logitech was the stamp of quality in computer accessories.

Now? It's trash!

[–] icedterminal 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is so true and it hurts.

Have a mouse, keyboard and speaker set from 2004-2005. They all still work. I've bought several new Logitech products since 2015 and all have failed or have some defect. I've reached the point where I don't buy anything Logitech.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Recently had to rma my mx master 3 because the rubber was going away.
On the other hand my mx master 2s fared way better in comparison.

[–] Passerby6497 3 points 2 months ago

Have they gone that far downhill in just a few years? I've got a g502 that I bought 5ish years ago and that mouse is solid as a rock. The g5 I had before that lasted over a decade before I got annoyed at the cord sheath trying to kill the mouse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

They still make some good hardware, but I wouldn't trust the company one bit.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When the MBA’s take over, the company is sucked dry.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

Take me over next, MBAs

[–] linearchaos 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Same happens every time I really take a liking to a restaurant.

Deliver a really good product with quality ingredients and become wildly popular, The shareholders will sell you down the road for a nickel and deliver a piece of crap product under the same name to cash out.

[–] AA5B 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

One of my favorite restaurants a couple towns over has been excellent for years, decades. T was always crowded and noisy, well known by everyone I encountered. It became my favorites on road trips from college, continued being my favorite as I dated and eventually married. It was still my favorite as I raised my kids to teenagers.

Then I really hadn’t gone since COViD, so my kids took me for Fathers Day this year. It should have been a red flag that the place apwas empty, quiet. Most of the microbrews were gone, service was horrible, half the menu was missing, they no longer put corn bread on the table. Then we got the food, and instead of home made everything, it all tasted like from a Sysco menu. They. O longer even had real plates or flatware. This all-star bbq place might as well be just dashing ketchup on top of microwaved food and opening a can of beans. What the heck happened?

[–] linearchaos 6 points 2 months ago

Aww man, Play sounds like it was awesome what a horrible loss.

Covid destroyed a lot of restaurants. Without intimate details of the actual location and history I can only make guesses.

They might have changed hands due to money or an older generation owner might have passed. They might have just changed their business plan all together to stay open.

When COVID hit the first thing that generally happened was the wait staff was let go. Normally for a business that's not a death sentence, but when it happened it happened everywhere and servers were more or less forced to find jobs not serving food. All the skilled labor exiting the work pool's a big deal. It's still rare, 5 years later, to find a restaurant that doesn't have a now hiring sign out front.

Now you no longer have customer volume but you still have a fair amount of wages. You can raise prices but people aren't going to put up with that a lot of them are out of work. You stop ordering the more expensive ingredients. You cut back portion sizes and stop freebies.

Congratulations you're still operating but you're only operating on the name you made for yourself your current menu is garbage. This is the end downward spiral phase. A mom and pop shop will barely recognize their customer base disappearing. You're not going to go back there now, your kids probably aren't going to go back there now. They're going to struggle for three generations from alienating their current customer base.

Even if they could run a marketing campaign and get people to try them again, they're not making enough money to rebuild the shop as it previously was. At this point you either sell it off or take on a financial partner who now has say in your business. If the financial partner doesn't know what they're doing with restaurants you'll have a hard time convincing them to return the place to its former glory.

The best they can probably hope for is that someone like you comes along with fond memories of the place buys them out at a discount managers to hire a respectable cook and a decent weight staff and pours money into the place to bring it back to where it was. Assuming it was even operating at a reasonable profit back then...

[–] The_v 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The most memorable example of this for me was a long time ago. I was newly married and very poor. I was just starting to build my tool collection in the apartment.

I needed a circular saw to repair some craigslist furniture. So I carefully went around to the hardware stores looking at the prices. They were all more than I was willing to spend.

Then in Walmart one day I took a look at what they offered. It was pretty much an exact replica of the top of the line model at 1/4 of the price. The box was a bit dusty and next to another saw with the same name and UPC. It was obviously a newer box of the same item. It was the cheapest looking thing I could imagine. Completely different from the older one. It looked like a great way to lose some fingers and toes.

I grabbed the solid looking one and walked happily out of the store. It's had a lot of use since then, and it's still working flawlessly. I am still the proud owner of all my fingers and toes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ya I have found some ultra cheap gems from China that were either equivalent or surprisingly, superior in quality for a ridiculously low price. Makes "you get what you pay for" a little more of a blurred line.

[–] The_v 6 points 2 months ago

Evaluating products based upon quality not being loyal to a brand ca save you a ton of money.

Brand loyalty is taking advantage of the brain being lazy. It doesn't want to reprocess every little thing. So when something has worked well in the past, people tend to grab the same brand. It takes a lot for people to reconsider their choices again.

Once companies break the brand loyalty due to shit performance, it is extremely difficult to get it back. This is why mismanaged brands that have gone to shit, always attempt to rebrand themselves.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

This is the truth.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not the question.
OP asked for what you like at this point in time. OP never asked if you will still like them in 10 years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Actually OP asked which brands you can always trust trust, and never mentioned anything about "at this point in time". My answers still the same.