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During an appearance on MSNBC's "Way Too Early," the New York Times' Peter Baker suggested Donald Trump is still having a great deal of difficulty coming to terms with the notion that he could lose in November to Vice President Kamala Harris.Baker claims that the former president's recent actions de...

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[–] dragontamer 99 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Nothing is guaranteed before the election.

And since Jan6th is how Trump left the last election, nothing is guaranteed even if the election wins. But an election victory in massive numbers would be our best bet moving forward. It cannot be close, Trump must be soundly defeated for the country to move forward effectively.

[–] militaryintelligence 54 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

While I agree, I think trump will whip his sycophants into a lather if he loses, regardless of how close, and more people will get hurt and killed. They need deprogramming, like a Nazi in 1946. Or if they choose to act on their fuhrers orders, hanged for treason. The time to be soft on this shit is over, leniency will bring more January 6th's

[–] dragontamer 51 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Nazis lived on until they died, believing that the Holocaust was a myth.

That's why we built the Holocaust museum and other WW2 museums. To make sure that as the Nazis died off decades or a century later, that our message would outlast them.

There's no "deprogramming" here. This is going to be a lifelong obligation for us to fight against bad ideas.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Start hanging them. They'll run for the rocks they crawled out of.

[–] militaryintelligence 7 points 4 months ago

Exactly. That video of the police officer being chased by a mob down hallways of one of our highest institutions makes me sick for what Trump is doing to our democracy.

[–] Boddhisatva 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The risk isn't another Jan-6. The risk is from his cronies positioned as election officials in the coming election.

Imagine a few counties in various states that refuse to certify the vote counts because of supposed irregularities. Imagine the miriad lawsuits that will be files by Trump's sycophants on Nov. 3rd. They will tie up the elections in as many states as they can with the goal of having SCOTUS step in and declare Trump the winner.

The chaos and violence this time will not be in DC. It'll be everywhere else.

[–] homesweethomeMrL 12 points 4 months ago

The risk isn't another Jan-6. The risk is from his cronies positioned as election officials in the coming election.

This - well, it’s probably both, but the “legal vote stealers” will be gunning for anyone they can get away with steamrolling. Crooked judges or weak Democratic responses will mean we lose legitimate vote counts to theft.

That will be very bad, for all the reasons, and again - that is their plan.

[–] rayyy 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

if they choose to act on their fuhrers orders, hanged for treason.

You really think the spineless Democrats will actually hold them fully accountable, much less "hang" anyone? Five stars for the thought though.

[–] militaryintelligence 2 points 4 months ago

Why only Democrats? I think there are plenty of more reasonable Republicans letting trumpism run roughshod over their party, so they tow the party line like a good little bitch.

[–] kescusay 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Once positive difference: The current president is Biden, not Trump. Assuming Harris wins, Biden will absolutely ensure that nothing even remotely like January 6th is allowed to happen again.

[–] homesweethomeMrL 6 points 4 months ago

He’ll have to activate the army in red states because they've already passed their unconstitutional laws. And the MAGA white trash parade will be non-stop, armed, and stupid as fuck.

I mean - they’re completely believing a demented sociopath. And lots of gravy seals are ready to kill innocent people again. They really don’t understand how fucked up they’ve made things. Because of all the bigly winning.

I hope they’ve got the sense to prepare for batshit preppers gone wild.

[–] Today 1 points 4 months ago

That's a great point that gets left out.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Yeah well he and his cronies were also in power during and before that time so I think we'd have a bit more backup this time