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He's a not really that dumb, he's a narcissist. Like, as a legitimate, detrimental mental condition.
Trump cannot backtrack and admit he is wrong, even if it's a small goof. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Dorian%E2%80%93Alabama_controversy
I know people like this in real life, and it's really sad, but also really annoying/grating.
To be fair, he’s ALSO very dumb: https://www.truthorfiction.com/trump-was-the-dumbest-gddamn-student/
This is really reductive.
I think coverage of him before 2015 is much more enlightening. One I always point to is the Market Foolery podcasts on Trump, where (TL;DR) he tries to sell private real estate to his public company at highly inflated prices, and hyping the market to buy into this technically-not-illegal scheme.
Thing is, he's good at that kind of scheme. It worked! It wasn't illegal, just basically selling a turd. The Motley Fool saw through it (and met him in person to discuss it, which is what the podcast is about) and made the only short of their career, but still, people drastically underestimate Trump's ability to "sell" ideas that benefit him, to their detrement.
The guy is one of the dumbest people alive. He isn't good at anything but fooling dumb people. He is the king of the dumb people and there are more than we thought.
It's not reductive. It's factual. Quit polishing a turd. He's a moron. He can't even fuck a porn star and pay her without being caught. He's so dumb he can't hide investment lies without being caught. He can't plan to overthrow the government without documentation.
I know 5 year olds with more wit and social navigation.
I’d be interested to see your take on his prowess as a trickster as mentioned in the parent comment.
We’d be really mad at someone who designed a 3D printed nuclear bomb and used it on our families. They might be socially inept and bad at geography and have no grasp of international affairs, so kinda dumb in some ways. They’d definitely be very evil. But when it came to nuke engineering, they’re evil & not dumb.
I don’t worry I’m glorifying the impeached ex-president when I say “he’s good at fraud.” He has said and done many evil things, including some cunning ones. He’s dumb in some areas. Am I really polishing a turd right now by acknowledging a horrible horrible person isn’t entirely an idiot in every facet of his life, rather only most of them?
Maybe 45’s narcissism is indeed the bigger headline. Narcissistic, evil, morally an idiot, cunning at (smart at executing) certain scams… if we just say “nope bad at everything, 100% dumb” we’re underplaying how dangerous he can be, no?
In my opinion, it's because our systems are woefully inadequate to address even the dumbest of huckster schemes. He's not some brilliant dude for pulling it off. He just has no morals, no ethics, and no shame. And he's spent a lifetime instinctively removing anyone who does from his presence.
"There is no greater danger than underestimating your opponent." ― Lao Tzu
Your not acknowledging his strengths, which have absolutely gotten him this far. That's a deadly mistake, one the Democrat part has already made far too much.
His strengths didn’t get him this far. His daddy’s money did.
He's not my adversary. He's an asshole I would rather not exist and is the epitome of stupidity. He doesn't have strengths. He bought fame and sucks at life. I don't need to acknowledge him as anything other than the scum that represents more scum. And you sound like you support him more than you dislike him.
I don't support Trump. I don't think there's anything that could happen that would make me vote Trump instead of literally any Democratic candidate. Even that aside, I really hate narcissists.
But you're living in a bubble if you don't want to acknowledge how he got this far, and you lash out any one that tries to break it. Way too much of the Democrat party does. It's how they lost, and could lose again.
Saying he's dumb as hell isn't saying he's not a clear and present danger to democracy. It's just saying he's dumb as hell. A person can be dumb and dangerous at the same time.
I'm not living in anything. You don't get it. I'm not a public figure. I'm just some person on the Internet. There is no need for me to see any good in a person. And he is that person.
Yet you're here commenting on Trump news, posting what you think he's like, and you have an interest in the Democrats winning.
I guess it doesn't matter much one way or another on Lemmy (we won't find many Trump enthusiasts to argue wtih here), but I feel that critcism of him can be much stronger if you look into his history instead of willingly ignoring it, and see what he's like.
What does that have to do with anything? You are commenting on how much we should respect him. I don't think we should. For any reason. He isn't against me. I don't need to respect a goddamn thing about him. And those that do are mentally ill.
Not respect, understand.
I'm a firm believer that we should make every attempt to understand what we hate.
What are you on about? I don't need to understand stupidity. It shouldn't be put on a pedestal to examine. When people say racist shit, it ain't a strength. When they convince people to follow they aren't wise. They are a predator being a piece of shit.
Tbf, after having dealt with narcissist in my own life, I've realized you dont really have to be smart to be good at manipulation, being shameless and willing to lie through your teeth does a pretty good job with people who dont want to get dragged into things, which is most people, the lies dont have to be particularly well thought out. So while Trump has done pretty well for himself as a conman, it doesnt really prove he has any type of intelligence.
Another commenter pointed out that he's so fucking stupid he stared directly at the sun when an eclipse happened. Yeah he's not very smart.
And most likely someone else came up with that scheme.
I don't think so. It's classic Trump and fits his long pattern of behavior, of not quite lying in the technical sense while selling some kind of snake oil.
Couldn't be a pattern of the people he hires and ethics he's happy to not have? This isn't evidence that he's smart
But also dumb