If it's enough that work becomes optional, it'll lessen the pressure enough that consumption will drop. More people will grow food, cook, and DIY everything from repairs to cottage handicrafts. They'll have the time and energy to organize, politically and otherwise

Regardless, UBI is a stopgap measure - it can just extend the game of capitalism a little longer, or it can be the start of a transition

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think that definitionally a UBI is the latter, at least in my opinion. The point is that it elevates everyone to the same playing field, of having all essential needs covered (shelter, food, utilities, healthcare). Anything less is basically just the welfare systems that most countries (besides the US) already have. In Australia, unemployment is not enough to live on, it's purposefully punitive to "encourage" people to find a job. Giving that same amount to everyone isn't going to cover people's basic needs.

Side note: Healthcare is a basic need that everybody has. So, if a UBI were implemented in the US, it would need to be enough to cover people's health insurance. At that point, the government's already paying for it, so why not just implement universal healthcare?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

At that point, the government's already paying for it, so why not just implement universal healthcare?

Because private health insurance companies are major donors, and no politician wants to upset the donor class?