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[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Hard-core authoritarian communist. The kinda peeps who support Stalin and shit

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Isn't "authoritarian communist" kind of an oxymoron? 😂 like the whole point of communism is that there isn't a ruling class. I guess Russia and China were never really communist, just statist authoritarian right? I mean, the Nazis called themselves Socialist. They were nowhere near that

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

Isn’t “authoritarian communist” kind of an oxymoron?

Yes. Yes, it is. I sometimes call them “pseudocommunists” for this reason.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Isn't "authoritarian communist" kind of an oxymoron?

Most real life implementations of communism used an authoritarian one party system. You can say these aren't true examples of communism, but that just ends up sounding like cope unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

None of those states ever gave economic or political power to the working classes.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Fair point. Though so far, there hasn't really been any system at all that didn't lead to genocide and/or class based opression. From monarchs to feudal Lords to capitalist oligarchies and communist dictators, terrible people always rise to the top.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

As how Marx outlined Communism as the evolution of Capitalism once it reaches a scale of production that everyone can have their needs met, resulting in a classless, stateless, moneyless society, then yes authoritarian communist is an oxymoron.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stalin

Certain aspects of Stalin? Or in general?

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Both. Fascist apologist like to cherry pick palatable characteristics of figures like Stalin, or Hitler, or Andrew Jackson in order to destigmatize thier idolatry of these figures. These "certain aspects" are the tip of the wedge they use to destroy rationality and peace.

A reasonable person who would like to discuss the benefits of communism would point to the value of labor, advantages of unions, and the dignity of the worker, not the evil, paranoid, and violent person of Stalin.

Always, the stink of fascism follows the idolization of so called "great men." Excuses after excuses.

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