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Isn't "MAGA" an admission that currently, America is NOT great? (self.asklemmy)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by Dasus to c/asklemmy

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Just something MAGA-people seem to have a hard time with sometimes. Probably not as much when Americans are speaking to themselves, but as a non-American, sometimes it's challenging to get "those people" to admit that there is indeed anything wrong with the US. As in they won't accept a single criticism, and will loudly proclaim "America is the greatest country in the world", while wearing a "Make America Great Again" hat, which for me pretty explicitly means America isn't great, if it has to be made to be such again.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They also never call out by what metric America isn't great anymore. There are plenty of metrics it's not, but they won't call those out.

Is it peacetime? Because we're the most peaceful we've ever been right now. Is it the economy? It's the strongest now than it ever was. Is it family values? First quantify what that means. Is it divorces? Those are down for the first time. Is it orpahaned families or something? Education? Well those are liberal values so they can't use those.

Or is it all just racist and homophobic dog whistling, meaning they want to go back to white nuclear families - they just can't say that.

Really it's all just "My nostalgia is more fun than dealing with today's problems". Nostalgia just ignores all of the problems at the time. "The 60s were better!" Just ignore Vietnam, the separate drinking fountains, the upcoming cold war, also the fact that the reason you had a good childhood was because of the social protections you had that you dismantled

[–] Lost_My_Mind 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is it peacetime? Because we’re the most peaceful we’ve ever been right now.

Maybe with other countries. We seem pretty much on par with civil war days in terms of internal conflict.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

And there's a bunch of proxy conflicts the US is definitely involved in and at least partly responsible for. Not to mention the "global war on terror".

Just because US soldiers aren't dying en masse doesn't mean it's peacetime.