Have to disagree. The “if I had a Time Machine I’d go back and kill Hitler” trope is there for a reason. Once the charismatic leader is gone, the movement will crumble in short time.

[–] pyre 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

but Hitler is gone, and fascism is surging around the world, and has been steadily gaining since WW2.

also Hitler and TFG are not in the same situation. one brought about Nazism, the other didn't. the republican party was fascist before him, and will be after him.

he didn't make them fascists, he just emboldened them to be more brazen and direct about it because he proved there are no safeguards or real consequences to literally be against democracy in the US. him dying won't change that. once the door is unlocked, destroying the key won't lock it back.

[–] suction 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

There was a 80 year break after AH was gone… And fascism is surging because Putin was and still is able to use the internet to do what Goebbels did for the Nazis. He’s the actual leader of the new fascist movement, Trump just hopped on his bandwagon. The people who feel emboldened by fascist leaders are always there, but they only become a problem when they can group behind “their guy”. So if that guy is gone, they go back to being passive fascists. Of course it would be better to have none such people around, but thinking pragmatically, that’s not an option, we first need to get back to the baseline by taking down the leader.

[–] pyre 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

i don't know how old you are, but I'm guessing you're young because there was no 80 year break.

there wasn't any break.

as i said, Hitler lost the war but fascism didn't. the US became more and more of a fascist country. police state, corporate power, mass incarceration, mass surveillance, invasions and endless wars...

there has been some progress too, but it has always been outpaced by fascism. and corporate power always grew. fascism isn't just when a bitch baby loser screams into a mic.