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WHAT

  • Former U.S. President Donald J. Trump was shot at a rally in PA.

TRUMPS STATEMENT

“I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania. Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country. Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead. I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”

WHAT WE THINK WE KNOW SO FAR

  • gunman is dead
  • Trump "is fine"
  • one attendee is dead
  • another attendee is in critical condition

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[–] jeffw 244 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (84 children)

Do not advocate or celebrate violence, please. Comments advocating violence will be deleted and bans will be issued.

Also, please avoid promoting conspiracies. Discussing current events is fine but suggesting things like “it’s a false flag” without evidence is spreading a conspiracy.

[–] ABCDE 266 points 5 months ago (75 children)

A reminder, he incited people Jan 6th which resulted in deaths.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago

That's the wild thing.

This is a "Oh no what will Cheeto say to start a riot?"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Or all the domestic violence

[–] Ensign_Crab 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And his cult still defends the insurrectionists.

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[–] HappycamperNZ 81 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I know you have to say this, but holy shit do I disagree.

This person advocated significant violence and contributed to the deaths and loss of human rights of thousands. A good whack of the world would turn up hungover to work tomorrow after celebrating only a few inches over.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

No better fuel for an extremist ideology then having a martyr. Trump isn't the problem, it's the millions who listen to him.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The best thing Trump could do is just die of natural causes after a long illness, so everyone can see his death coming and get used to the idea, and with no focusing point his merry band of lunatics dissolve back into the etha. They have always existed, but Trump acts as a catalyst to get them all worked up.

[–] JustARaccoon 7 points 5 months ago

People would still scream bloody conspiracy, "it wasn't old age, he was poisoned!"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Trump is the problem since he is the leader of the cult. Without him they dont know who to follow. If Hitler had been assassinated in one the many attemps there might have still been a WW2 but depending on how early on he was assassinated millions of people would not have been killed in concentration camps. This would have been early enough to prevent much damage Trump will do. Better would have been 2016 but that didnt happen sadly.

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[–] JJROKCZ 12 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Trump is absolutely the problem when he’s the mouthpiece of American fascism. Why are we pretending his death would be bad? We’re a couple years from having concentration camps in the US if he wins and everyone’s wringing their hands over this attempt at saving millions of lives by taking one.

Yea it might cause a civil war, that looks unavoidable at this point anyway. I’d rather civil war than concentration camps

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Why not? Isnt that what americans claim the second amendment is for?Prevent fascism?

[–] pachrist 18 points 5 months ago

Sic semper tyrannis.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Lemmy users when they can’t advocate violence:

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago (15 children)

Advocating for violence to prevent a fascist from abolishing the democracy is the only acceptable violence. Sometimes a democracy has to be protected violently if it is too weak to protect itself. Trump allies always say its why they have the second amendment. Now that it is used against them they cry about it.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

spreading a conspiracy

I know this is off-topic, but can we please go back to saying "conspiracy theory"? Conspiracy and conspiracy theories are not the same. There are actual conspiracies (a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful) , and there are theories of conspiracies. They should not be confused.

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