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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I'm not a fan of utalitarianism myelf, so this might be wrong; this sounds like utalitarianism - as the action you did cause other suffering.

then in your moral philosophy, are all actions that cause suffering (and joy, and all other feelings a human can experience) morally wrong?

Is then not dating, f.ex Morally wrong?

Or is it the impossibility of consent? Yes, a child is unable to consent to being born. Just as we are all unable to consent to the world being created, or nature's whims. I cannot consent to a state on the other side of the world making policies, but I can still react and do things about it.

Is it morally wrong to let animals have children?

[–] Lag 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If one animal species is harming an ecosystem then I don't see how it's morally wrong to limit their reproduction.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Usually, a better way to help an ecosystem balance itself is to reintroduce predators or similarly.

the deer population in yellowstone was destroying the soil, this was solved by reintroducing wolves.

there's a big difference between this, and f.ex castrating a lot of the deer, or going on a shooting spree.

It also goes with the assumption that the ecosystem is either outside the moral spectrum, or morally good.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat 3 points 4 months ago

So you think instead of just restricting births, the better method is a mass culling of the human population? I mean, I'm down for population control any way we can get it, just wasn't expecting that option to be on the table.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] Cignul9 6 points 4 months ago

A guess, but “for example”? That’s how I’m reading it, anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

There's also antinatalism from a deontological perspective.

But, from the negative utilitarianists I've known and seen, I've found an intense debate about the animal reproduction question. Some say antinatalism should include non-human animals and any other sentient being; some say it's a human-only matter. I do not have an opinion.