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Oklahoma schools head Ryan Walters: Teachers who won't teach Bible could lose license
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when the federal government makes everything a state's rights issue we get fifty states doing whatever the hell they want
obvious at this point Biden has either lost the reins or is intentionally letting the nation slip
very coincidental that we lost women's rights and we have a huge surge of religious oppression at the same time a prolife religious right leaning conservative democrat gets at the helm
The guy responsible for killing Roe v Wade literally took credit for it on TV yesterday.
That kind of attitude lingers dangerously close to the everything-is-a-conspiracy-by-the-shadowy-cabal line of reasoning. Biden's a Catholic, but it's certainly not "obvious" that he's "intentionally letting the nation slip". You can scroll down barely a page on whitehouse.gov and watch the president commit to restoring the standard of Roe v Wade. It's under the statements in favor of Pride, committing to combating gun deaths, lowering housing costs, and protecting pensions. Joe Biden's executive orders have been the most progressive executive action since Roosevelt.
Here's something a lot of non-religious folks might not know: the evangelical right? They hate Catholics. The MAGAs hate them ideologically, but the ones running the show hate them because the Catholic Church is their competition when it comes to running private schools and otherwise lucrative community support institutions. Biden is absolutely not on their side, theologically or otherwise.
I generally agree with what you've written, but I think you're assuming more pragmatism here than is actually present. Bitter hostility between Protestants and Catholics is as old as Protestantism (and much older than the institutions you mention).
Also, as a side note, there are plenty of Catholic Republicans. (37% vs 44% that identify as Democrats, according to Pew.)
his idea of committing is asking for donations and promising to look into that once the money hits a certain amount
living in the US either way feels like living in a Church fucking awful
I live in Louisiana. It's not Joe Biden who is making this shit happen. It's Jeff Landry and the rubber stamp legislature that are making the place into a little Iranian theocracy.
Exactly! In many parts of the country Joe Biden and the federal government in general is the only thing standing between the people and Supply-side Jesus flavored fascist autocracy.
What does Iran have to do with things?
Iran is an example of a theocratic state.
I don't know that there is much Biden can do. The Federal government can't just tell a state no, they have to take them to court and prove that they are violating federal law. And we now have gerrymandered-to-hell legislatures violating federal law right and left and there's only so much time and so many resources.
I'm not going to tout Biden as the greatest president ever or anything, but I can't blame him for this. He's not responsible for putting Ryan Walters in his position and he doesn't have the power to get rid of him.
Biden has been a career politician longer than been alive or you perhaps
definitely blame him and all Democrats and Republicans
don't wake up one day and magically become progressive
he always has been right leaning and his party could have been at least shouting to the rooftops about the injustices but instead just deafening silence
did he even mention this at the debates last night? how about cop city? or anything relevant?
Good Ol' Silent Joe
This news story broke yesterday and it's the weekend. Give him a few minutes before you denounce him for what he hasn't done.
We have such a ridiculous instant gratification culture.
when the place you reside in is currently being threatened as is your way of life do expect the leader and chief of said place to put in an effort to say something on any platform he could as if he is our side in all this
Yes, again, I understand that you want Biden to say something the second you learned about that something, but it's the weekend. That's just not how things work. If Biden doesn't say something next week, sure, criticize him. But expecting him to put out a press release or hold a press conference about a non-urgent issue over the weekend is silly.
Lol he's been in politics for 50 years. He built this house. He helped steer the ship. He flipped the blinker and shouted shift into 5th gear.
I have no idea what on Earth you're talking about or why that means Biden needs to make a comment on this new policy before Monday.
I'm responding to your instant gratification comment. We've given these fossils to much time to change and for the most part they haven't and never will. But feel free to wait while the planet becomes one paved gas station, and your kids starve, will never own a house but you are thankful at least you are a lucky one and have a job at Walmart and continue to work into your 90s.
Huh? This has nothing to do with climate change or the economy.
You done flew that squid into a cloud of reactionaries who get real uppity if their vision of things doesn't happen by 3 months ago. A story about what a political twat said MIGHT happen is suddenly priority #1 amongst all the other things the POTUS has to deal with on the daily.
Bro maybe just maybe. Those people who you are calling "reactionaries" have been told "change is coming, it will get better just keep waiting, these things don't happen overnight." For the last 4 or 5 decades?
And maybe they're ignoring things like the civil rights movement, the original implementation of Roe, the progress of the LGBT community and all the other society changes that have happened in that same time.
The civil rights act was 60 years ago. Roe was 51 years ago. They're saying we've had barely any progress in the last 40 or 50 years. Cops are still killing people. Racism, homophobia, and other kinds of hate are still alive and well.
Racism, homophobia, and the like are not a matter that can be solved politically. One can make all the affirmative action and equal rights rules you like but the issue at the root is society and culture based. Educational standards are being fought against in our most conservative states pushing for religious indoctrination and denying historical reality.
You have a wing that actively pushes the militarization of the police over community support and engagement, and those same people trying to turn society back to the 'traditional norms' as they existed before the civil rights movement.
Given the realities of the need to actually get votes through, just how would you suggest those things be fixed?
Then what good are politics?
Because you can put in those equal rights laws and enforce them, along with all the various other things like building roads and schools and such. To think you can just outlaw racism and such is foolish though. You would be trying to literally tread into thought police territory there.
Wow these issues are so like you know controversial to anyone with a brain...
Don't recall where I indicated any of them where controversial, care to point it out? I simply pointed that this complaint of 'no progress' is ignoring some pretty major progress over the years.
So a teacher who is blacklisted and can't eat or pay bills does nothing to the economy? This is exactly obey or starve. But you know I can tell you aren't a big picture squid.
You're really reaching for a reason for why Biden not waiting until a weekday to talk about this is such a horrible thing.
Nah I really don't care. The alternative to status quo Biden is 💯 worse.
Okay, well then since this was about how Biden didn't respond to this issue right now, I don't know what your point was.
He doesn't ever have to respond since he has governed the county to this position you dumb dumb.
Well then maybe tell that to the person who said he needs to rather than the dumb dumb who didn’t.
After reading the rest of your comments, you could've just saved a lot of time by saying you don't know how the government works. And if anyone else happens to read this and think, "Hey that's a good point," no, it isn't. It's ignorant at best, actively malicious at worst. Sounds a whole lot like many of the comments trying to get people not to vote.
You're going to blame Biden for the stance of conservatives? This is totally wrong. Right wing religious conservatives have been wanting to bring christianity back into schools for over 50 years and they have finally forced it to happen through state laws. Republicans want this and are making it happen.
Um, no. Biden is pretty solidly in the center, his record is a mix of left and right positions, and his positions have evolved as he's aged. I do believe he's religious, but he is not trying to force his religious beliefs on us like some states are currently doing with the 10 commandments bullshit.