But i feel like a lot of people don't see that a TON of american and european products are made in china too. And think "oh i don't buy a chinese phone! Its made by abused workers!".

And then buy an iPhone. Completely forgetting that phone is made in the same factory but with an american logo on it.

We need to be more focused. We can't let people forget that the government and the people are not the same.

I know people say the "chinese" or the "russians" or the "americans". But we should say the government instead when talking about political conflicts. A lot of people read the "chinese" or the "americans" and see it as that ENTIRE country. People, government etc. As if it is all one singular thing.

Its just sad and wrong to see them as one and the same.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

It's hilarious to see people hating on china because of the governement while their own governement probably do worse, and history proved that occident is capable of worse

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Chinese plants will make whatever the hell you need them to at your desired quality, as long as you meet the market price.

There’s an incredible irony in Americans associating them with poor quality because the American capitalists ordering the goods decided to cheap out and cut corners lmao.

[–] RageAgainstTheRich 6 points 1 week ago

Ex-fucking-actly.