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They're usually shredded alive almost immediately because they're seen as "waste" since they don't lay eggs

For some more context:

Why the egg industry 'shreds' baby chicks alive (NSFL)

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[–] Etterra 2 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I acknowledge that food is cruel. Plants scream when you cut them, you just can't hear it. There are animals that kill their food by suffocation, drowning, spinal damage, being dismembered, impaling, and worst of all, the trauma of being devoured alive. Nature is cruel, humans are no different. We've just centralized the production and distribution.

All that said, I don't think we should make them live in cruel conditions. Let them go outside and walk around while they grow up before you take a pneumatic hammer to their skulls ffs.

[–] davepleasebehave 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'm not sure you can compare the screaming of plants to the screaming of animals.

[–] Soulcreator 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"Plants silently 'scream' when you cut them, so it's morally equivalent to shooting a bolt in to the brain of a sentient animal, right? Nature is cruel, so I guess I have no choice but to continue eating this big Mac, right?"

[–] davepleasebehave 3 points 1 week ago

I mean if you acknowledge pain, perhaps you also acknowledge nervous systems. something plants don't seem to have.

[–] ameancow 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

What people mean when they say "nature is cruel" is "changing my eating habits seems like a huge inconvenience with no personal reward, because I don't in fact care what other entities experience. Sure we're talking about animals at the moment, but how easy would it be for me to turn off my sense of empathy for people as well?"

Also, plants don't "scream" and I want to throttle the media sites that ran with that headline for choking up science with even more bullshit and nonsense. Releasing a chemical agent to affect defense mechanisms isn't "screaming in pain" the way humans experience things. I have no clue why they thought that equivalency was worth publishing.

[–] Soulcreator 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The amount of pseudoscience surrounding the 'plants tho' debate is just plain infuriating, I just can't with anyone who thinks harvesting wheat is morally equivalent to sticking a bolt through a cows head.

[–] ameancow 3 points 1 week ago

It's probably way too far to even dare hope that the majority of human beings can be taught concepts like "central nervous systems" and how a living mind experiences things and what things can and cannot experience things.

Because I'm quite sure the average person can't even recognize when another person is alive and can feel things.

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