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The main reasons I've seen from vegans for not eating meat seem to be all about the morality of eating a sentient animal, the practices of the modern meat industry, and the environmental impact of it. And don't have anything to do with the taste of meat.

Since lab-grown meat doesn't cause animal suffering, and assuming mass production is environmentally friendly, would you consider going back to eating meat if it were the lab-grown kind?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It would depend how this lab grown meat affects the environment or who produces it, how, what price it is.... I'm not opposed to it, just need to see the details.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And whether screams in inarticulate horror at being conscious without senses other than pressure and pain.

But hopefully that’s not how it goes

[–] maniii 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Lab-grown meat might not have nerve-endings or nerve-endings that connect to nowhere. You will need a brain or spine for the nerves to connect back to for the nervous signals to get recognized and processed before the screaming and "conscious" state of the brain can potentially exist.

So in essense, the lab-grown meat will just be like tissue cultures kept artificially alive but not a living organism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps then it screams at the horror of having no nervous system to organize its consciousness into a time-bound shape.

Maybe the more a creature’s consciousness morphs into the shape you and I inhabit, the more protected its consciousness is from the unshaped horror of formlessness.

Maybe the only reason we have anything other than pure yelp as our existence is because evolution built these structures to give us some relief from a background agony.

Perhaps when we try to engineer flesh that doesn’t suffer, we instead make flesh that lacks the dopaminergic insulation from suffering that higher-order structure enables.

Probably not though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

pure hell not pure yelp lol