this post was submitted on 21 May 2024
119 points (89.9% liked)

Asklemmy

44151 readers
962 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy ๐Ÿ”

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_[email protected]~

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

^Qn.

How to reduce the enshittification on various services.

( eg: Payment sites instead of Apps, Ads in Facebook site - I rarely use FB )

Any browser addons, scripts are welcome.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[โ€“] Crackhappy 46 points 7 months ago (10 children)

I go outside and roll around in the grass with my dogs. There's no enshittification outside.

[โ€“] [email protected] 44 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Careful where you roll around. You might roll into a warm pile of dog enshitification.

[โ€“] Crackhappy 1 points 7 months ago

Mmmm a nice warm pile.

[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago

It's 100% happening outside as well though invasive ad placements, restriction of access to pleasant environments and underfunding of public services and property, like parks and such. It just takes much longer

[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Download our free mobile app to enter the park.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Oh god, I hate how I feel like I could actually encounter this.

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

except there absolutely is. I live in what used to be a literal forest with a road through it and now its smog and tire dust the moment yoy open a door or window.

[โ€“] okamiueru -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Urbanisation and deforestation are not the same as enshitification tho.

It's a bit unfortunate that "increased degree in which something is shit" sounds like what the word should mean, and I suppose it then sort of does.

It's nice to have a word that describes the investor-driven incentives to worsen a service/product to milk out more short-term revenue. The larger a market capture is, the more that can be pushed without an alternative being a threat.

It's the cycle of "provide a good quality service that makes everybody happy" -> market capture -> shareholders push for increase revenue at the expense of quality as there is no competition.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I left a lot out but I think overall it still counts. this formerly middle of nowhere town grew too big due to high end highrise projects and everyone wanted to live in lovely little forest tower with a view but making the car and bike infrastructure able to support the additional homes isn't profitable so getting in and out is bottlenecked massively, local businesses have been replaced by more housing projects so you have to go farther to get food and stuff.

so basically once upon a time nothing was here and you had to drive out far to get anything. then the town picked up over several decades and you didnt have to go anywhere because everything was there. then they got rid of everything and brought in more people so you have to drive again but now in traffic, all to line the pockets of mainly two companies' execs.

[โ€“] okamiueru 1 points 7 months ago

Hm. I didn't argue against anything of what you're saying here. I'm just saying that it arguably isn't "enshitification".

Enshittification is the pattern of decreasing quality observed in online services and products such as Amazon, Facebook, Google Search, Twitter, Bandcamp, Reddit, Uber, and Unity

I don't see how this is very contentious either.

[โ€“] NickwithaC 13 points 7 months ago

How's your local air quality?

[โ€“] very_well_lost 10 points 7 months ago

the fossil fuel industry has entered the chat

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Depends on the dogs, IME.

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I wish I agreed with this, but every day more forests and fields are knocked down to make room for more shitty subdivisions in my area. The few farmers that have held out and still use their land on the middle of the city are heroes, but I know that within a few decades they will slowly dissappear, as the farmers die and their kids cash in on that appreciated land.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Not like farmers don't abuse and exploit the land themselves. It's just a bit more aesthetic.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

There's no enshittification outside.

Just watch out for the literal shit some irresponsible pet owners leave behind.... Other than that, this is great advice

[โ€“] max641 7 points 7 months ago

Haha.. I was waiting for this solve-all-issues-by-moving-to-cave kind of reply.