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[–] Shelbyeileen 136 points 7 months ago (8 children)

It's because it's a data stealing company. They require 24 different types of permissions, including keylogging, biometrics (your fingerprint), your wifi network, your Bluetooth, photos, contact info and it saves your payment details, just by using the app. It also was recently flagged for malware. You're getting a good price because you're paying for it in a different way

[–] [email protected] 75 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's also just stuff from Alibaba. It's all made in China, which has gotten really cheap. You can buy the same things on AliExpress without giving out all your contacts and everything.

Basically you are seeing how stores in the US buy their merchandise. It's extremely cheap, and they are marking it up at least 100%. Shirts and pants are like $3 to $10, maybe a little more for good quality. Places like Target and Walmart buy these and double or triple the price.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's also just stuff from Alibaba. It's all made in China, which has gotten really cheap

I feel the same about Amazon. Most listings are just US based resellers selling you cheap Chinese merchandise bought from Alibaba and then passing the costs onto the customer by inflating the price they resell it at.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago

True, but with Amazon you are paying more for faster shipping. Stuff actually shipped from China takes a long time.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's literally just drop shipping

Don't run any inventory. Just take orders on a front-end website. Then buy at wholesale rates and resell at retail prices, while trying to make a margin based on the difference between the margin and the cost of advertising. It works great if you're able to get a bunch of free publicity. So you'll typically see these guys "networking" in hopes of doing an impromptu sales pitch in front the largest crowd possible. Or doing stunts to get literally anyone to look at them.

Amazon is a multi-trillion dollar industry that's functionally built on the idea of drop shipping. Jeff Bezos is just the richest incarnation of those insufferable frat-bros trying to sell you bitcoin.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Aliexpress is the way to go. A lot of the time you're buying directly from the company that makes the product. On Amazon, there are a lot of drop shippers.

[–] NightAuthor 39 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Just to be clear on the biometrics, no normal device anyone uses sends your biometrics to apps secured by biometrics.

It’s more that your phone stores a very strong password that’s specific to that app, and your phone will automatically enter that password, but only if the phone can validate the biometric.

This is not meant to detract from anything else you said, just clearing up how that actually works.

[–] Shelbyeileen 3 points 7 months ago

Thank you for clarifying!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It's not just a data-stealing company, they also exploit tariff exemptions on shipments from China by shipping single orders that stay below the sales amount threshold rather than large shipments of products imported for resale. Using this sales technique they can undercut their competion, while also being even worse ecologically. They've also dumped a ton of money into marketing

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

No kidding. I remember they had like 3 ads at the Superbowl. I don't know what that costs but it's a fortune.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon 10 points 7 months ago

The raccoons are kind of high maintenance.

[–] MissJinx 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I wish it was always this simple, as a poor person if I could sell my data to pay for food or rent I would

[–] Shelbyeileen 2 points 7 months ago

A lot do, actually. There's a bunch of places you can get paid for online surveys, people who can't work a normal job do them full time and most make ~30k/year from bed. It's been great for the disabled community.

[–] menemen 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] fne8w2ah 11 points 7 months ago

Yes and much worse than even Wish.

[–] Aux 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] menemen 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

OK, great. I occasionally order at AliExpress and was kind of tempted to try Temu, because of the hype. WIll skip it then.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I only use Aliexpress via my browser. Was tempted to give Temu a try too but that's a hard pass from me now

[–] Evotech 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And they steal the design of the products they sell

[–] Shelbyeileen 2 points 7 months ago

Yup, a lot of my cosplay/fashion designer friends have had their work stolen and they can't do anything because it's international and they can't afford an attorney with their small business income.

Those cat paw socks, Danielle Baloo at Toe Beanies created them, several years ago and in the process of getting a patent, they were copied by Alibaba sellers. She was denied her Kickstarter campaign for drop-shipping, and had to fight for months, proving she was the original designer. Screw people who steal designs. She worked her ass off and they're selling her work with cheap foam that's not safe for human skin... I constantly report them.

[–] Sam_Bass 1 points 7 months ago

Gas em up, kid lol