Fediverse

The Letterbook team have published some research into moderation tooling & strengths+weaknesses thereof on the Fediverse. It contains some great analysis and recommendations, check it out!

Loops aims to be an open Fediverse alternative to TikTok, Snapchat, and Vine. We take an early look at the app, and talk about what it's like!

No matter which sort you use (except for new), content is recommended to you by activity. Depending on the sort (active, hot, top) it uses a slightly different mixture of votes/comments/time since post to determine the order.

The only exception is scaled, which boosts a little bit midsized communities, but still doesn’t manage to improve visibility of niche ones.

If lemmy is to truly start having active hobbyist communities instead of being 95% lefty US politics, Shitposts, and some tech stuff, it needs a sort that takes into account the user’s engagement.

For example, if I upvote / comment often in a community, there should be an option to have posts from the community be boosted in my feed, even if it’s a tiny community. 

Let’s say I’m subscribed to [email protected] and [email protected] because I want to occasionally see news. However, I’m also subscribed to a couple hundred other communities, some of them who don’t manage to get more than a couple upvotes on their biggest posts. And whenever I see them I’m replying/upvoting because I’m passionate about that topic. 

My feed shouldn’t be 95% c/news and c/world because those are the most upvoted and commented. I shouldn’t have to scroll down hundreds of posts to find “big” posts in small communities I interact with at any opportunity I get. 

That’s why I think it would be beneficial to lemmy if the sort/algorithm took into account your engagement in a way.

It doesn’t have to be complicated, you can have a single number “engagement score” for every community calculated with a basic formula, and that number is used as a boost to the community. 

I’m aware that there are some examples of successful niche communities on lemmy. But that’s mainly because either a significant chunk of the lemmy userbase is into that niche (let’s face it the lemmy community is not a representative sample of the world population, we tend to be very similar people), or because the posts on it are simplified image/video type posts which appeal to people who don’t know much about the subject.

The Great Twitter Exodus of 2022 is still happening. It's just a little...fractured. A lot of X power users migrated to Bluesky early on, which paved the way for a flood of folks to join that service in 2024. Meanwhile, a lot of technically inclined individuals are still hanging out on Mastodon (at least, that's where I hang out).

Bluesky and Mastodon are both decentralized services, in theory, but users of one service can't really talk to users on the other—or it wasn't possible before Bridgy Fed, anyway. It's a beta service that makes it possible for Bluesky and Fediverse-compatible applications, such as Mastodon, to interact.

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This is where Bridgy Fed comes in. With this service, individual users of either service can opt in to "bridging" their accounts. I tested this out with my friend and Lifehacker alumni Eric Ravenscraft, who hangs out on Bluesky more than me. It worked well—we can now see each other's posts, like each other's posts, and even talk to each other, cross-network.

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While this solution works well, there are a few hangups. Chiefly, it only functions if both people bridge their accounts. This means I can't see any comments from Bluesky users unless they also are bridged, and vice versa: During our little test, a few other Mastodon users responded to my conversation with Eric, but Eric could not see those replies. This make sense if you know how the system works—only comments from bridged users are bridged—but it's hardly ideal, and can lead to asymmetrical conversations. Unfortunately, the opt-in nature of the bridging service makes this inevitable.

If you are already using Bridgy Fed, how is it working out for you?

if anyone wants to create a game that implements ActivityPub, I am happy to support

This might mean that he may help Prismic implement it (if he's aware) and others

A little procedure I follow to help noobs get seen by others. I used to do what most people do and boost their # introduction posts, but I think most people want to see more natural engagement and sort of glaze their eyes over when they see the intro tag, so here's what I do:

1. Create a list called "noobs," hidden from home timeline.
2. Go to # introduction
3. Follow every poster with fewer than say 25 followers and add them to "noobs" 
4. Periodically browse "noobs" for interesting* toots, boost them
5. Periodically unfollow accounts in "noobs" (do not remove from list! That puts them in your main stable of follows!)
6. Repeat

I don't consider it spam-following, because I'm actually giving these accounts a good deal of attention and a good shot at being seen by a few hundred more people. Often I'll genuinely like an account and remove them from the list instead of unfollowing them. I haven't really tested this method's effectiveness, but I thought I'd put it here for others to consider.

*I have a fairly eclectic profile, so I'll boost just about anything that's not asinine.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/22035616

I am not the author.

After reading this and trying to get snac2 working, I tried GoToSocial. worked out well so thought I would come back here.

I'm just sick of Reddit.

The communities there seem much more active than the once on lemmy, which is not a surprise.

However, I oftentimes find myself doom scrolling through reddit, just because of some nonsense BS propaganda, ads, etc .., snuck inbetween of the community posts I'm actually interested in.

How can we convince the people over there to move away?

Wouldn't that be better? Let me see if I can explain what I mean. Here on the fediverse each server is kind of restricted to what the user can post.

@[email protected] is for notes

@[email protected] for photos (wouldn't be surprised if it used a note too)

Lemmy only for article objects.

Peertube for videos.

You get the idea.

This way of developing the #fediverse where each server only receive one kind of the objects accepted by #ActivityPub makes it more fragmented it, right? A server should send and receive all kinds of objects and should be up to the client to how to processes those objects.

If an user wants an Instagram-like app just create an account on any service and use and app with that UI, of lager they wanted to see more kinds of objects they should just use another client that supports Note, Article, etc. with the same account on the same server.

Ideally all server should have a shared API.

This fixes #fragmentation, the need to have multiple accounts if you are into multiple kinds of objects/content.

I don't actually want to do this right now, but I do want to know if it's really decentralized yet. Completely looks like it means each of:

• A client ✅
• A personal data server ✅
• A relay ❓
• Labelers ✅
• Feed generators ✅

It looks like the relay might be the bottleneck. If I'm understanding the protocol correctly, a relay could consume less than the whole network so it doesn't have to be ridiculously expensive to operate, but I'm not finding examples of people doing it.

Mastodon has been around since 2016 and has 804k MAU.

The platform has 57 third party apps.

The platform is decentralized and has community ran servers.

What's the point? Is it just to be like twitter? Why did twitter have that anyway. And if I hide mine I still show up in other people's public follower pages? That's dumb

Survey by Japanese News Site Nlab asks users where they are moving to from Twitter/X - Misskey wins with 41% (n=5119)

Voting Results

The final ranking is as follows.

Misskey (41.3%)

Bluesky (19.9%)

Taittsu/タイッツー (13.4%)

Mastodon (10.7%)

Discord (5.5%)

@[email protected]

#Fediverse #MissKey #Bluesky #Mastodon #Discord

On whatever topic the poster posts and it wold be just like old days instant messaging

I wanted to ask something about handling spam, but magazine sized, since I noticed things like https://kbin.melroy.org/m/gaming and https://kbin.melroy.org/m/berita12 that are closed and only seem to host spam links. Do you report all the posts, just hail the admins? Sorry if it's not the right place, couldn't find MbinSupport or something similar.

I encourage all Mastodon users to follow @bsky.brid.gy and take advantage of https://fed.brid.gy to bridge #Mastodon and #Bluesky accounts. It's great!

#fediverse #bdsm #gay @[email protected] @[email protected] @mastodon

Mbin in the last six months doubled their number of comments being sent out across the wider Fediverse. PieFed is making strides forward all the time. Sublinks hasn't seemed to keep up, but Lemmy.World has floated the idea of potentially moving to it at some point.

So we are not all just "Lemmy" anymore. Though "Fediverse" seems far too broad a term, when it can include such diverse aspects as PixelFed (like Instagram) as well as Mbin or Xhitter as well as Lemmy or PieFed or Sublinks - see e.g. A lot of good stuff is happening in the fediverses!

So people have taken to calling us the "Threadiverse". Tbf that name predated Mark Zuckerberg's "Threads", but still that name now seems tainted by it? Though otherwise accurate & precisely descriptive as it emphasizes how people talk in topic-based conversations, rather than the user-focused approach of Mastodon and Xhitter.

So what I do (when I don't say that we are on the Fediverse) is simply list out all the possibilities - Lemmy, Mbin, PieFed, and soon Sublinks - though that gets cumbersome. Or maybe there's a new term that we could use? @[email protected] mentioned:

most people think of microblogging when they hear "Fediverse". Maybe "Nestedverse" or "Forumverse"?

Or I suppose we could say "Threadiverse except don't worry we specifically exclude Threads", whenever we talk about ourselves, especially to mainstream people (who don't use Arch btw!:-P) e.g. to people on Reddit. (oh who am I kidding, ofc I mean @[email protected], who regularly tries to attract new users to here and deserves some kind of award like "Ambassador of Lemmy" - oh and there we go again, just what the heck are we!?:-P)

Also, it is up to each instance whether they want to specifically exclude threads.net or not - and one could in theory not do that, so that whenever threads.net decides to turn on its federation it would absolutely flood that instance with content, drowning out the source from Lemmy (or WHATEVER we are!:-D).

So it can all get so complicated - what would help simplify it? Just call it "Lemmy" and leave it at that? Unless Lemmy.World moves to Sublinks, that is where >80% of the userbase lies and therefore much of the content is coming from atm. Or "Fediverse" even if that is too broad? Or "Threadiverse" even though that's a loaded word now? Or something new? (ngl, I kinda REALLY like "Forumverse")

People will call it whatever they want ofc - I intended this to be a silly & fun question to provoke us into thinking about it:-). Especially since I'm posting to Lemmy from PieFed - which is fucking beautiful that none of those details actually matters and we all can just share the content and enjoy it, together!:-D