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[–] inclementimmigrant 137 points 11 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago

It can't be that cold, they're naked except for the hats!

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (11 children)

They will grow up but it will be a much different world. Back in the 70s, Rachel Carson posited that it was probably already too late to turn back the effects of air pollution and poisoning of our oceans, and she was right. Instead of fixing problems, oil and gas companies are doubling down on fossil fuel extraction. Kids will grow up to have all kinds of respiratory illnesses and also facing a world that is melting around them.

Most years we're in below 20 degree snowy weather. Today it's 50 degrees here, it's Dec 18th and we've only seen snow in our mountains, which is very rare for us in Utah. Not that I'm complaining about the heat -I love warmer weather, and I absolutely detest the sight of snow in any way, shape or form. But it is weird that we're not even going to have snow on the ground this Christmas (we might get some rain this week).

[–] waigl 100 points 11 months ago (15 children)

Temperature translation for non-Americans:

70°F ≈ 21.1°C
50°F = 10°C
20°F ≈ -6.7°C

[–] Wogi 38 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Conversion for the Midwest

70f= nice out 50f= nice out 20f= bring a hoodie. It's nice out.

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[–] Pretzilla 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (56 children)

Here's an easy way for disadvantaged yanks to learn Celsius:

40C = 104F perfect hot tub temp
30C = 86F hot day
20C = 68F nice cool day
10C = 50F chilly day
0C = 32F freezing

Commit these to memory, then it's exactly 9F for every 5C in between. (or about 2:1)

[da fak with the downvotes? Just refuse to learn?]

[–] Dozzi92 21 points 11 months ago (4 children)

You give multiple references and say remember these and then do some estimations. Just subtract 30, divide by 2. 80F is approximately 25C. I'm not cooking meth here I'm arguing on the Internet.

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[–] TheBat 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Back in the 70s, Rachel Carson posited that it was probably already too late to turn back the effects of air pollution and poisoning of our oceans, and she was right.

That's amazing. She died in 1964 and still kept working.

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (9 children)

My kids won't have this problem. Given the circumstances that have been obvious for 40-50 years I made the best and most responsible parenting decision possible. I didn't have any.

[–] Gigan 28 points 11 months ago (13 children)

But now your responsible, climate-concerned genes have been removed from the gene-pool.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

I’m not going to force children to live in a future I have no faith in just so I can say I’m part of the “gene pool”. It’s unfair to make them pay the costs for several lifetimes of greed and irresponsibility. To me, that’s exceptionally arrogant and cruel.

I hope I’m wrong, but I’m not willing to bet my child’s future on that.

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[–] Wrench 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Friends/acquaintances with young children always want to know why my wife and I chose not to have kids. I get very dirty looks when my first answer is "there are already too damn many people in the world as it is"

The economists are the worst. "Don't you know, we need children to fund your retirement! Economies need a growing population!"

Yeah, fuck off. That's not sustainable and you know it. We're going to need to figure out how to make shrinking populations work.

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[–] Eheran 83 points 11 months ago (24 children)

70 degrees of what? Freedom?

[–] waigl 40 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Temperature translation for non-Americans:

70°F ≈ 21.1°C
50°F = 10°C
20°F ≈ -6.7°C

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Separation. Kevin Bacon wanted nothing to do with this.

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[–] finkrat 83 points 11 months ago (1 children)

YOU'RE IN THE JUNGLE BABY

YOU'RE GONNA DIIIIIIE

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This will be especially true once Alaska becomes warm enough to support a jungle.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 11 months ago (16 children)

Have fun in the water wars, kids!

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[–] cheeseblintzes 62 points 11 months ago (9 children)

This shit is exactly why despite having hated growing up in the frozen tundra... I'm now staying. Its not worth giving up at this point in society.

Been a....something... guys. Best of luck to you in the climate wars.

May the odds be ever in your favor.

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[–] MargotRobbie 61 points 11 months ago (4 children)

That's ~21 degrees in non-freedom units from someone who has to do this conversion a lot.

Also, that's pretty normal summer temperature if you are from the Southern hemisphere.

[–] YoorWeb 54 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] MargotRobbie 19 points 11 months ago (10 children)

If we are being really pedantic, the freezing and boiling part of first paragraph is only true under sea level atmospheric pressure, so technically, you can't really relate these quantities with the given information in the first paragraph either.

But I don't think that's the point this exerpt is trying to make.

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[–] splicerslicer 33 points 11 months ago

But this is clearly written from the perspective of someone who lives in a climate that used to be solidly below freezing all through the winter months in the northern hemisphere. Now snow seems like a distant memory from childhood.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

21°C/70°F is a normal winter temperature where I'm from in the southern hemisphere 🥲

And right now it's summer... let's put it this way, lately it's been over 40°C/104°F for so many weeks in a row that, when temperatures dipped to 33°C/91°F, it felt cold... and to think it's only going to get worse going forward @_@

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[–] Pretzilla 60 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I call them Generation Last

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (5 children)

The crazy part is I have friends who are well aware that the world is completely fucked and they are still making new children.

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

The cute smile, hugs and sex are pretty convincing 😪

EDIT: of my girlfriend, you sick psychos

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don’t have sex with children

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[–] Aceticon 49 points 11 months ago (3 children)

70 degrees in Dezember around here would kill most people, since it's only 30 degrees below the boiling point of water.

[–] douglasg14b 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ah, being intentionally obtuse.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I live near the arctic circle.. it's usually -40° right now.. it's actually +5°C today.

T-shirt weather in late December.. wtf humanity

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (9 children)

We have had almost no snow in BC this year. Northern BC is in severe drought. There isn't even enough water to fill the recently completed highly controversial site C dam.

Basically that means we are going to have the worst fire season we've ever seen, sorry america but the smoke alone will ruin your summer too

Even fucking Haida Gwaii is seeing some mild level of drought right now. This shit ain't right

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You should look at the winter that recently ended in the southern hemisphere - record ice shelf losses during winter, record high temps in Rio and other cities. In winter.

And it's just getting more and more brutal.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"That unapparent summer air in early fall"

  • "That funny feeling" by Bo Burnham
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