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Enough Musk Spam

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Whoever wrote the line "He looks like a redpilled Chip from Rescue Rangers" deserves a fucking raise lmao

[–] drdabbles 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As I said on another post:

This segment was sort of a let down, because the same lies about reusable rockets were repeated without researching them apparently. Some of musk’s most agreed upon accomplishments were achieved 30-40 years ago, but people on TV can’t help but give him the accolades.

Also not much digging into the Starlink for Ukraine debacle, or the fact that he didn’t actually donate all that hardware, didn’t donate the service, and it wasn’t being used in nearly the capacity initially reported because the people receiving the units were happy to bullshit for him as long as they got gear to use.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are the lies about the reusable boosters?

Imo it's really an important milestone in rocketry. What launch vehicle in history has been better in terms of reusability and reliability than the Falcon 9 series? And how often could they launch and what was the turnaround of those reusable parts?

I haven't followed SpaceX closely in a few years (Elon is crazy and it has gotten pretty boring (but impressive) with the constant launches) so I are not that up to date. But last I checked, a lot of the launches used reused first stages and in some cases the stages had been used 3 times.

A quick search query finds that the record is a booster having been reused 16 times. Hell they even reuse the fairing these days.

The space shuttles are cool but they waste quite a lot and they are very expensive.

And no I don't like Elon but I have to give credit where credit is due. SpaceX is a game changer in rocketry, nothing even comes close.

[–] drdabbles 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

SpaceX did not pioneer reusable launch systems. Flat out. They've been experimented with since the 1960s, commercial companies were experimenting with them in the 1990s. Even the name FALCON comes from a project DARPA was working on.

There was also this famously reusable system in the US called Shuttle Launch System, consisting of a reusable shuttle, two reusable solid boosters, and an expendable extension tank.

Hell they even reuse the fairing these days.

No they don't, they stopped that attempt because recovering them was pointless and difficult.

The space shuttles are cool but they waste quite a lot and they are very expensive.

Yes, imagine if we used a capsule system like Russia kept using.

give credit where credit is due

Ok, then start thanking the people that developed these things in the 60s through the 90s.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No one has said that they invented reusable launch systems.

They did very much perfect them though.

No one else has been able to reuse boosters with the frequency and reliability of the Falcon 9. In fact no one has been able to produce any rocket whatsoever with a better reliability than the Falcon 9

Sure the shuttle had reusable boosters but the turnaround time was significant because they landed in the sea using a parachute.

Yes, imagine if we used a capsule system like Russia kept using.

What capsule system are you refering to? I am not familiar with it. Btw SpaceX does have a reusable capsule.

No they don't, they stopped that attempt because recovering them was pointless and difficult.

I couldn't find any indication that they have stopped recovering the fairings, quite the opposite actually. Article from November: https://www.space.com/spacex-starlink-payload-fairing-recovery-sea-photo

It seems like they have stopped with the net boats though. It was apparently too hard to catch them and fairing is supposedly not that hard to clean. So they just pick up from the water.

Ok, then start thanking the people that developed these things in the 60s through the 90s.

True. But do we have to thank them every single time someone bring up SpaceX? That's ridiculous. One can't claim to invent such an obvious concept and demand credit 20-70 years later for something that is also reusable but not similar in any other way.

It's not like those old systems are anywhere close to how SpaceX is operating nowadays anyways.

It's not like we thank Carl Benz every time someone makes a good car in the 2023

[–] Pooptimist 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Surprised that he didn't mention his emerald mine starting capital

[–] roofuskit 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Other than an interview from his father there's no evidence of it and Elon denys it. The mine was unofficial and there's no paper trail. It's a risky claim to make from a journalistic perspective.

[–] ttmrichter 6 points 1 year ago

Thankfully it's not journalism. It's comedy. I know it's hard to tell the difference, but here's a tip: comedians are far more likely to tell the truth these days.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Love me a nice unofficial mine

[–] roofuskit 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sometimes a mine just a hole in the ground with some valuable minerals. They paid locals to work it and sold the emeralds on the down low according to his dad, he had a partner. It wasn't a huge operation. But it paid their bills and then some.

[–] FlyingSquid 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Last episode of the season, sadly, but a good one to go out on.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would be nice if HBO Max aired it promptly. Why is this on YouTube and not on the channel I'm paying for it on? Frustrating.

[–] littlebluespark 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why are you paying for a service that's jerking you around?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Asking myself that right this minute.

[–] littlebluespark 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use the internet almost exclusively on a phone these days. Less convenient for the yohoing.

[–] littlebluespark 0 points 1 year ago

You might be surprised how simple that can be, even via mobile devices. Good luck out there, citizen. ✊🏼

[–] Hamartia 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe he's in a brothel.

[–] roofuskit 6 points 1 year ago

I bet he loved this, last we tonight doing a whole segment on him.

[–] moistclump 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not available in my country. Anyone else lookin for a mirror: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Eo3zORUGCbM

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Blacklisted regions: AU, CA, GB, IS, NZ

Maybe use VPN? Or install LibreTube if you're on Android