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[–] [email protected] 151 points 1 year ago (2 children)

IIRC it only suports plain text files / Markdown rn. Not supporting EPUB is a non-starter for me. I use my Kobo right now and love it. If they add EPUB support i will heavily consider building one.

[–] Synthead 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah it's an interesting project, but it looks bad with the printed case and exposed tact switches, and seems to have little functionality.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The creator is working on an epub-to-text-file converter here:

https://github.com/joeycastillo/libros-convert

[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not sure I understand, epub is both the industry standard and an open format, as far as I know. Why not work on using it or build it around epub from the get-go?

I have to admit I'll have to wait for the project to start implementing epub to consider getting on board, but it's still a great effort.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It looks like it is powered by a microcontroller. Maybe it isn't powerful enough to support epub?

[–] Blue_Morpho 15 points 1 year ago

It's a 120mhz Arm CPU. That's more than enough for epub. For comparison the 25 Mhz 68030 in the Next computer used Adobe Postcript (PDF) as it's GUI.

[–] ricdeh 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Probably because the computational hardware is not powerful enough to implement a (proto) web browser

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn't calibre also have a built in converter?

It used to be able to strip DRM from stuff too, but I think they got rid of that for legal reasons.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, Calibre can convert to most formats.

DRM removal is not a feature of Calibre, but of plugins you can add to it. Kobo and Adobe DRM have plugins available. Amazon DRM plugin is in a poor state as Amazon cracked down on a major method earlier this year.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Think I did it that way for some books.

I also seem to remember there being another workaround, by exporting it to my old sony e-reader via the official sony app, which is so old it doesn't have proper DRM, but I did have to sign up for adobe digital editions or some or other BS. Something like that. End result was a DRM free epub.

Huge waste of time, especially for something I'd paid full price for, so after that I gave up on buying ebooks, and simply pirated them.

Just like with DVDs back in the day and streaming now, you get a shittier experience if you pay full price. Better to pirate.

[–] mesamunefire 6 points 1 year ago

Calibre already does this but cool we have options.

[–] solrize 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Epub to text is very easy and Pandoc can do it. I end up using lynx -dump because that's faster though.

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[–] obinice 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The extremely tiny screen is the deal-breaker for me, I want to build one of these for my father to replace the over a decade old kindle he uses, but I want to upgrade to a bigger screen.

We can't afford much, and we have a 3d printer and I know my way around a Pi and wiring, so it would be a great option.

But such tiny display for what should be an upgrade from the tech of 10+ years ago :-(

[–] ricdeh 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The problem is that such open hardware projects can mostly only work with the components on the market, and eInk displays (or advanced displays in general) are principally only sold by their manufacturers to the OEMs they have contracts with. We are lucky to have any eInk display available to us at all for these kinds of endeavours!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

This, plus making bigger eink displays with reasonable refresh and antighosting is a pain. They are proportionately more expensive.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Except I'm dead certain you can buy screens a lot larger than 4.2 inches - the 6 inch screen behind the Kobo Clara HD is actually all over AliExpress and eBay, and it has a backlight and is not marketed for as a replacement for the eReader. Kobo just glues a thin metal plate and a battery to it for rigidity, but otherwise it's identical. And there are a fair number of other screens you can find online in various sizes if you want to get them working.

The hard part is getting data sheets or reverse engineering them. But it's far from impossible.

[–] Plopp 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Aren't all e-readers tiny? I want an A4 sized one (with a stylus for taking notes and scribbling).

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are A4 e-readers. Bamboo note for example.

[–] Plopp 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes I've seen one. Maybe there are more now than when I looked, but at that time there weren't enough to be able to make a choice as a consumer.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Onyx Boox has the Note Air 3(10in) and the Tab X(13in). They aren't cheap though, $400 and $900 respectively, mostly because of how expensive those large eInk screens are.

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[–] solrize 4 points 1 year ago

Inkplate 10 is not tiny (10"). I'd prefer larger but it's a start, and fairly affordable. I might get one sometime.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is an interesting concept but doesn't seem like it has long term legs.

It depends on what you mean by open source and also even eBook reader (I'm assuming eInk), but if people want open source e-readers I would say flashing existing reader hardware with open source operating systems would be the way to go. However I'm not sure if there is much motivation to do that.

There are Android based eink ereaders available with more freedom than Kindle devices (Boox is an example) and you can side load free or open source reader software onto Kobo (maybe not Android Kindles though?), and you can load free books onto e-readers via software like Calibre. So you can read books in privacy outside the vendors ecosystem - it kinda reduces the imputus to build an open source ereader (hardware or OS).

I'd love to see a truly open source Eink device - particularly software wise. But I doubt the demand is enough. And this Open Source hardware solution seems a bit too cut back to fit the bill.

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[–] Whirling_Cloudburst 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This looks fun. I got a Kobo. I wish it was opensource. It would be cool if some people were to team up with Fairphone and make a Fairbook project to make a light weight device with USB-C charging and long lasting battery life. There needs to be a bigger incentive if the firmware is ever going to get better. You could just use Linux as per usual tho.

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[–] egeres 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A few years ago amazon made a few big screen kindles before settling on the current format, I don't know which eink screens sizes are available for consumers, but it would be interesting bring that back

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A screen around 10" is perfect for reading pdfs. No need to reflow or anything, just read the pdf as it is.

[–] adrian783 5 points 1 year ago

personally I use a 10 inch tablet for pdfs, reading PDFs on eink is a terrible experience.

PDFs are also often reference materials that require flipping back and forth. which makes it doubly painful.

[–] mesamunefire 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would love a full kit for the open book. Or a preassembled one. I just don't have the time anymore to solder/assemble it but I would pay a good amount for the open book.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I feel that. I desperately want to support open source hardware, but don't have the chops to do it from scratch.

Framework laptops been close to that dream though.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really cool! I do wish the screen was a bit bigger. It's the size of my 2012 windows phone, haha.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've got a Hisense A5 and reading is surprisingly nice on it. Although this looks even smaller?

Also regarding the overall idea - just get a Kobo and put Koreader on it, then sideload any book format you like.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I do have a kobo! It's pretty good. What's Koreader? Is that software to jailbreak it?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I'm glad to see some other options. I'm not a fan of Amazon, but the only other practical option has been tablets, which are generally a lot more expensive and less well-suited to the purpose. This looks like a good design.

[–] LifeInOregon 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Kobo and Boox are both great alternatives to Kindles.

[–] Mr_Blott 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The first couple of Kobos I got over the last decade were admittedly a bit shit and plasticky, but I stuck with them, and the one I have now was double the price and ten times the quality. Really good company now

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wasn't impressed with the Kobo, although it does the job. I'm not familiar with the Boox. I will have to look that one up.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

What sets some of Boox's models apart from the other e-readers is they're full Android devices; you can install most apps from the Play Store. Perhaps not as great for battery life, but a world apart so far as functionality goes (and you can even install the other e-book vendors' apps if you have existing purchased content).

In the "pocketable" size category, Palma which is a phone form-factor device (I have one of these, has been great), the Page looks very much inspired by the design of the Kindle Oasis, or the Tab Mini C has a colour e-ink display.

[–] ABCDE 12 points 1 year ago

There are other ebook readers. What's up with those?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Same. I'm waiting with baited breath. I feel like I'm the target market for this: I love my e-reader, I love open source stuff, and I hate the options on the market. Sadly, my experience is that these things can't compete on the economy of scale, and are often at least 50% more expensive than the alternative. I want to vote with my dollars, but I'm not rich, and used e-readers are always on eBay & Craigslist for $40.

We'll see, though.

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