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Hungary has blocked €50bn ($55bn; £43bn) in EU aid for Ukraine hours after agreement was reached on starting membership talks.

"Summary of the nightshift: veto for the extra money to Ukraine," Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban posted on social media after talks in Brussels.

EU leaders said talks on aid for Ukraine would resume early next year.

Ukraine is critically dependant on EU and US funding as it continues to fight occupying Russian forces.

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[–] [email protected] 129 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hungary needs to be expelled from the EU.

[–] Relo 4 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 111 points 11 months ago

Such a stupid system. How is Ukraine unsuitable for EU and NATO membership until it passes some reforms and Hungary is a part of EU and NATO while actively sabotaging and hating on both?

[–] [email protected] 72 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not one more € from EU funds should go to Hungary.

It is completely obvious that Orban is not an ally.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

The EU is not an alliance, so not being an ally is a moot point.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices 68 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Was that the sound of Putin unzipping?

[–] assassinatedbyCIA 62 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nah, we’re well past that point. That was the sound of orbán gagging.

[–] FuglyDuck 8 points 11 months ago

Pretty sure Putin isn’t large enough to make any one gag. That must have been the sound of Orban faking it.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 11 months ago

its always fucking Hungary. they should never been allowed into the EU the corrupt cunts

[–] obinice 44 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Either the Hungarian government isn't representing it's people and is instead deeply damaging their nation's relationships and future against their will, in which case their people need to elect a better government,

or it is representing the people, the people support Russia and hate the west, and must be expelled from the European Union, as they are a dangerous and damaging force trying to destroy it from within.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

For young people, No. 1 is becoming pretty clear, although parents influence is a thing.

For a bit older people up to gen X, it's "yeah sure but the opposition isn't better" (which it is, but everyone is homophobic) or "playing two sides is smart" not realising how fucking cynical that is today.

For even older people, ie retirees, it's that Fidesz ramps up retirement pay close to every election like a pet-owner playing with their dogs.

Note that what is now the Opposition had a speech recorded in 2006, where the party Leader, Ferenc Gyurcsány, openly said "We have lied through the last eight years" and "We fucked this [very vulgar version]. Not a little, [we've fucked this] a lot". Orbán is obviously lying way more but he doesn't say it out loud (Or is smart enough not to get it recorded).

[–] TheEighthDoctor 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can we just freeze every single cent of EU money going to Hungary?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago

What a fucking disgrace. And the guy just got 10bn out of the 30bn the EU held back. They should have just quickly voted on the aid together with ascension talks while Viktor the Pig was out of the room.

[–] MonsterMonster 35 points 11 months ago

Hungary, whilst lead by an Orban government, is the enemy.

[–] Burn_The_Right 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When a country becomes a fascist ally of an enemy country, shouldn't that justify removal from the EU? Can a country be removed from the EU? What is the process and why is it not happening?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You need everyone else in the EU to agree to remove them. Poland and Hungary sort of protect each other from EU consequences.

[–] sic_1 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Poland has a very pro EU government led by Donald Tusk now.

[–] Squizzy 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Dream come true, hopefully they roll back all their bullshit right wing policies now.

[–] sic_1 2 points 11 months ago

They are certainly trying but PISs did a ton of damage to the democratic systems and also installed swathes of people in key positions that share their views.

[–] filister 18 points 11 months ago

I think by now Orban can simply make a referendum to join "mighty" mother Russia. It is pretty obvious which interests he is protecting in this case.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

Huck Funguary

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is Poland still protecting Hungary from consequences?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hopefully not with the new government

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

Sadly, Slovakia has a very Orban-like government now so sadly now it could be us who start shielding Hungary in EU.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Hungary should not be in the EU. Kick them out!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Wait, wasn't there something a few years ago, where they couldn't bring up 4 or so billions?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Hungary has blocked €50bn ($55bn; £43bn) in EU aid for Ukraine hours after agreement was reached on starting membership talks.

"Summary of the nightshift: veto for the extra money to Ukraine," Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban posted on social media after talks in Brussels.

The aid blocking was announced by Mr Orban shortly after the EU leaders decided to open membership talks with Ukraine and Moldova and to grant candidate status to Georgia.

Mr Orban left the negotiating room momentarily in what officials described as a pre-agreed and constructive manner, while the other 26 leaders went ahead with the vote.

Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky hailed the EU decision on membership talks as "a victory" for his country and "Europe".

Commenting on Mr Orban's opposition to the aid, Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte said: "We still have some time, Ukraine is not out of money in the next few weeks."


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