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[–] Cruxifux 179 points 10 months ago (20 children)

No ethical billionaires. Nobody comes by that much money honestly.

[–] jpeps 65 points 10 months ago (18 children)

While I don't think it's true, I could accept the idea that it were possible to make that much money ethically. However, having that much and not doing good with it? To me that's the bigger evil. Billionaires should be extincting themselves.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Entertainers could be an exception to the evil billionaire rule, but even Swift was doing things like renting out her jet, and her shows have a huge carbon footprint as well.

If she were paying for the pollution, the profit margins wouldn’t be so high.

Also we just need to tax most of the income over $1 million a year. Like we did before the 80s greed is good bullshit started.

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[–] TehBamski 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Here's a quick and simple example of how much $1 million ($1,000,000,000,) is compared to $1 billion ($1,000,000,000,000.)

1 million seconds equals 11.57 days. 1 billion seconds equals 31.71 years. Days v.s. YEARS!

[–] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago

The different between one million and one billion is about a billion

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Nobody earns a billion dollars. Imagine it's October 12, 1492. One of your ancestors is so excited about Columbus landing in America, that he starts putting aside the equivalent of 5000 dollars every single day. And through good fortune, every heir continues to do the same. 5000 dollars added to a pile every single day for over 530 years. 5000 dollars is more than most people make in a month and it accrues every. single. day. There is no interest on the money, but at the same time there are no taxes and nobody spends it on frivolous stuff like food or shelter or education or healthcare. And now, after more than 531 years you inherit it all and realize you're not a billionaire. I know it's an unrealistic thought experiment, but to me it shows that no billionaire ever earned their money.

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[–] Fades 120 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (43 children)

For those unaware

From 2022:

Taylor Swift’s plane was identified by the report as the “biggest celebrity CO2e polluter this year so far,” racking up 170 flights since January with emissions totaling more than 8,293 metric tons.

A report published last year by Transport & Environment, a major European clean transport campaign group, found that a single private jet can emit 2 metric tons of CO2 in just an hour. To put that in context, the average person in the E.U. produces about 8.2 tons of emissions over the course of an entire year, according to the report.

https://www.transportenvironment.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/2021_05_private_jets_FINAL.pdf

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Ahh yes, the woman who wanted to... (checks notes) hmm copyright a fucking date because she used it for an album...

Ffs there is no such thing as an ethical money hungry person.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

She did actually get those trademarks:

Trademarks for years (and others shit) like that are pretty common. Like this one for 2023: https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=77026303&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch

Here is one for "LOL": https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=77669187&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch

She doesn't own the year, I think she is just the only one allowed to use it for merchandise, albums, and a bunch of other stuff. Basically no one in the USA is allowed to make a T-shirt with 1989 on it. Maybe it would be fine if the t-shirt has no other connection to Swift. Dunno.

She has a fuckton of trademarks. Just search for "TAS RIGHTS MANAGEMENT, LLC " on https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/search/search-information

[–] 1847953620 20 points 10 months ago

jfc, it's actually worse than I thought

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

Copyright is often quite context sensitive, it doesn't mean nobody can use that date, they just can't name an album after it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean, there's probably a ton of crap on her. I have no idea, I haven't read up on her, but I would assume that every billionaire has a lot of smoking guns with regard to pollution, bad work conditions and unethical handling of capital. But if the worst you have on her is that she attempted to copyright '1989', it doesn't really seem too bad.

[–] Death_Equity 23 points 10 months ago (13 children)

Her private jet has the most CO2 emissions out of any celebrity. She defended that by saying she rents it out, so it wasn't all her; as if that changes how much the private jet she owns has emitted. As far as the rest of her environmental impact, it is likely no worse than other performing celebrities so not great but in larger amounts than other celebs.

She does seem to do well by her support staff. She gave out $55m in bonuses to everyone who worked on her last tour.

She has donated a lot, but I couldn't find out if she has donated over the deduction cap or if she claimed the donations. As far as I can tell the majority has been given to food insecurity charities and disaster relief. So even if it is a tax scheme, she seems to be giving in the right direction.

I am not a fan of her music, but she doesn't seem like a terrible person except that she has unimaginable wealth, a massive platform, a highly influential brand, and isn't doing as much as she could to help others.

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[–] SCB 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

This is, unironically, the best meme about leftists ever made.

In my experience, leftists are like Star Wars fans, in that no one hates leftists like other leftists.

[–] cynar 18 points 10 months ago (10 children)

The right, when issues arise, circle the wagons. The left, when issues arise, form a circular firing squad.

The let's fractured nature is both its greatest strength, allowing for innovation and new thinking, and its greatest weakness. We often fail to come together for good, when we all want perfect. We often end up with neither.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I always wonder why the workers of the world don't rise up together. We could easily take over without any violence.

Then I remember we all hate each other and refuse to work together and it makes me sad.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Because it is hard for the individual to risk being destitute if he rises up and no one follows.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)

There are ethical billionaires, but nobody would have heard of them because they do not advertise and show off how much of a good person they are for donating. A good person do not look for validation. Charles Feeney comes to mind who donated 90% of his wealth and died with net worth of $1 million. He also lived in a rented apartment despite having become a billionaire for managing Duty Free.

Edit: okay some have been pedantic on here about Charles Feeney and his wealth, and some of my figures have been wrong, but the overall point still stands. He was worth $8 billion, donated over 99% of his wealth and spent the rest of his remaining days with $2 million.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/05/nyregion/james-bond-of-philanthropy-gives-away-the-last-of-his-fortune.html,

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (22 children)

Incorrect. The only way to acquire a billion dollars in net worth is to exploit labor.

Doesnt matter if they donated to charity. Its a tax shelter for them. Im sure Feeneys employees would have preferred to be paid higher wages.

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[–] Xanis 25 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Dunno about you all, though I'll take the slightly less villainess billionnaire that might have a positive impact for $500, Steven. Cause fuck if I won't side with the potential enemies of my enemies at this stage. Playing it cool and acting like we're doing fine doesn't seem to be doing much after all.

[–] 1847953620 8 points 10 months ago

nah, fuck em all. I don't trust that nepo baby psycho

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fully extend right arm, lift arm 15 degrees, rotate wrist 90 degrees to the right. Resume.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

In my experience, people don't respond very well when you try to cut their arm off

[–] NightAuthor 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I think they were aiming for the neck

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