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[–] [email protected] 58 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why does occupancy even matter in terms of the amount of rent? You're leasing the space. Maybe the argument is "wear and tear," or if utilities are included? Even so, $600/mo is a ridiculous amount even for an additional permanent adult tenant.

Something tells me that there might be more to this story. It sounds like the landlord wants these tenants out of the residence, and doesn't want to (or can't) go through an eviction proceeding. This nonsense amounts to "constructive eviction." Why does the landlord want these tenants out?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I could see it for wear and tear, and also to discourage subletting maybe? Makes no sense for children to count if it's the second one

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you want to discourage subletting, you put a clause in the lease that forbids subletting. Sure, an additional adult would generate some additional wear and tear, but certainly not $600/mo worth. Besides which, the wear and tear cost would come in the form of post-tenancy cleaning, carpet, paint - and none of those have a real difference in cost whether you have two or three adult tenants.

[–] SamuelRJankis 39 points 11 months ago

B.C.’s Housing Minister, Ravi Kahlon, told Global News Monday that this couple’s landlord should “give himself a head shake” but he is in a legal position to do this.

“I mean, this is the challenge that we have with sometimes landlords and tenants. Most landlords are good people and they operate in a good, transparent way. But this is a situation in which reminds us that we need to continue to find ways to strengthen the rules to ensure that the tenants are protected when they move into new places,” Kahlon said.

I really don't understand why people keep perpetuating the belief that vast majority of landlord are anything but for profit investors and society should treat them as such.

This loophole has existed and been used unfairly for a long time now I really don't understand why they haven't amended the RTA to at least cap the extra occupancy increase and exempt a reasonable amount of children.

[–] Everythingispenguins 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like the baby is going to need to get its diapered ass down to the employment center on day one. Ain't no free ride here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Where did my mans find the money to buy diapers?

[–] needthosepylons 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I am totally against biting landlords. Absolutely. I condemn people clawing landlords faces. Landlords are human beings that definitely shouldn't be punched in the face repeatedly, because they're not parasites.

[–] Agent641 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Chairman Mao redistributed the land of 700, 000 landlords to those who had none, and executed them, and personally I think thats just taking things a little bit too far.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

B.C.’s Housing Minister, Ravi Kahlon, told Global News Monday that this couple’s landlord should “give himself a head shake” but he is in a legal position to do this. “I mean, this is the challenge that we have with sometimes landlords and tenants. Most landlords are good people and they operate in a good, transparent way. But this is a situation in which reminds us that we need to continue to find ways to strengthen the rules to ensure that the tenants are protected when they move into new places,” Kahlon said. “I mean, having a child should not mean that all of a sudden your rent should be going up 300, $400 over a short period of time. And so we’re going to be looking to make changes into the future.” Kahlon said in this case, he urges the landlord to do the right thing and make an exception for this couple. “But it’s a reminder that we have to make more protections for tenants because in the environment that we’re in right now, moving when you have a child is simply unacceptable,” Kahlon added.

This is infuriating. You are the fucking minister. Don't just nod along saying "we need to do better". DO BETTER. If the rules make no sense to you, get new rules. Yesterday. It's your fucking job.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Our current politicians have almost completely been sold out. It's just empty words now as they sell off the country.

[–] TheDoctorDonna 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Why are children being considered occupants?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Probably because, with the cost of housing nowadays, a baby can grow up and stay with their parents in that apartment until they're 40 years old. That would mean there's an additional adult in that unit.
Then the question would be, at what age a child should be considered an additional occupant?

[–] TheDoctorDonna 1 points 11 months ago

When they are done school and working full time, they are an occupant.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Looks like this would be illegal in the USA: https://www.hud.gov/sites/documents/ASIAN_FAMILY_BLUE.PDF

Why in the world they didn't change the name of that PDF is beyond me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

hahaha I wonder what other options were presented. Maybe GAY_COUPLE_GREEN.PDF or MIXED_RACE_BABIES_SO_CUTE.PDF

[–] RizzRustbolt 10 points 11 months ago

Smart parents would have been collecting sublet rent for nine months from the fetus and investing it in Bitcoin.

[–] AnUnusualRelic 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Just say the baby is a pet primate. Problem solved.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

That'll be an additional months rent security deposit, and $200/mo pet fee.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

“We also told them that my mom is coming to visit. The son said that my mom is going to be considered an occupant,” Maynard said.

It comes down to this:

  • read your lease agreement
  • don't assume your provider is your friend
[–] CADmonkey 2 points 11 months ago

Also:

  • Don't volunteer information to the landlord.