How am I supposed to keep track without the two letter suffix that's non sequential?
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Look at mister fancy pants over here with 2 letters while the rest of us are using the totally understandable "b" or "g" or "n."
AX gang all day, baybee.
802.11b will always be my favorite. Brings me back to a simpler time.
I like the 802.11 scheme. :(
I'm only mad that they changed it because I put the effort in to learn the 802.11 standard.
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Whoever is behind USB version naming schemes, please take notice.
they have? And both wifi and UsB is still a mess to understand under the name.
I just upgraded to a WiFi 6E router. Both my phone and my laptop support 6E.
Speeds are great, until you leave the living room (where the router is). Go up to my bedroom, and 6E won't even connect. So it's fast, but 6Hz has trouble going through walls.
Most of the other devices in the house are on 5GHz and that's still super fast and able to reach basically everywhere.
the difference between 5Ghz (5150-5895) and 6Ghz (5925-7125) is not really sufficient to blame for most home uses. It's expected as a rule to lose about 10-20% more power than 5Ghz through walls (where 5Ghz lost 100% more power than 2.4 Ghz does). It's much more likely that your new WAP just does less power or worse antenna than the old one did.
Whats a wired access point called?
A switch?
Wireless defines how you access the point... Not that the access point itself is wireless.
A switch is technically a "standard" access point (or just ports in the wall connected back to the switch).
We use "Wireless" access point to denote access to the network without physical connections.
WAPs can connect to the network via wired or wireless means. Where most people will reference "WAP" as a wired (wired uplink) connected wireless access point... and Mesh (Wireless uplink) WAPs as wireless connected wireless access points.
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Damn, I don't think I even have WiFi 6 yet, haha. I've just not had any need for faster speeds.
I'm sure something will come along that'll make use of it though!
Wait till you’re streaming 8k video in each eye of your VR headsets. And, the whole family is watching in their headsets. You’ll need it some day.
That's why I'm dropping fiber in my house when I do my ethernet drops. Might as well pull 2 wires and future-proof it.
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I am just glad that 6E and 7 have access to 6GHz so that once my devices support it i can disable both 2.4 and 5GHz to lower interference from neighboring networks. The higher it goes in frequency the less interference everyone will get.
Less RF interference, sure, but a lot more wall and physical object interference as the higher frequencies aren't able to go through them nearly as well.
Overall, it's great to have more spectrum available, especially in a less crowded range. More options means more optimal solutions to be had.
Just wait until we enter the gamma spectrum, then it should be quite penetrative.
They already have that, but it's only been a limited release so far. Just a drop in the ocean.
Thats true. And the higher it goes the more money you have to spend to properly network. I have heard 60GHz requires you to be in the same room as the AP but gives fantastic speeds. What i eventually plan on doing is buying say a 24 port PoE switch and running 2 cables to the ceiling in each room (for redundancy) and putting an AP in every room. I know that will cost a good chunk of money, but with an AP in every room that would future proof the network for higher and higher frequencies in the future.
If you're wanting to future proof, run conduit not just wires. For now a setup like that is overkill and probably straight up won't work well, since roaming is a client decision and the clients make really silly choices sometimes.
Yep! once everything runs on fiber or USB C, you can easily pull more wires to that location!
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It'd be real freakin awesome if every IoT device didn't still rely on 2.4Ghz
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You wont want to disable 2.4 and 5GHz on wifi 7. The reason it gets so much higher speeds than 6e is that it can send data on all 3 spectrum simultaneously. If you turn off 2.4 and 5GHz you would essentially be limiting yourself to 1/2 speed.
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Some day most people will upgrade their devices and it will become smarter to go back to 5GHz
Would be funny, anyway
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"Wi-Fi 7 supports superior connectivity for emerging use cases with high levels of interactivity and immersion,"
How far can I be from the access point and how many walls can there be in between? WiFi at home is already pretty bad just two rooms over from the router.
It's really just the nature of the beast. For higher throughput you need higher frequency. Higher frequency means less pentatration
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Meanwhile today I get an ad from eero for a WiFi 7 router system that costs $1699
What do I need a wireless connection many times faster than my internet for? Streaming game rendering to future VR goggles?
Most people don't, and that's OK. You'll just upgrade whenever your current equipment breaks down.
But businesses will be a large market share for increased speeds.
me over hear with my gigabit-ethernet plugs in every wall as if they were as important as electricity... upgrade those suckers to 10-gig-ethernet, and wifi-has nothing over other than mobility... mobility until you leave the room.. sounds about like being on a wire.
wireless needs a better understanding, and for most that have no understanding they just see faster as better, when no wireless is better than a wired connect, that is why the cellar towers, fiber connection, and even coax-connections all are needed to "power the wireless".
i'm shocked at how many new or remodeled homes have no "ethernet port" but yet they will have power plugs-n-mass every where in the house, electricity for everything, and then they plugin 5Ghz repeaters into all the wall sockets so that they get decent room to room speeds.
You have a point about how silly it is to scrimp on ethernet ports in new construction/remodels--wifi with a wired backhaul is unquestionably preferable to pure mesh.
But to say "wifi has nothing other than mobility" is purely asinine. It's like saying that planes offer nothing over cars except the ability to travel faster--yeah... that's kinda the point! Compared to the number of networked devices in the average home, there are very few current or near-future devices that could leverage even a gigabit connection fully, let alone justify a dedicated wired connection.
Streaming video needs a few 10s of Mbits tops, security cams are similar, streaming audio needs a fraction of that, your smart home devices & hubs are negligible, mobile phones and tablets downloading 100MB apps barely even blink at current wifi speeds. Even the average WFH-er is going to saturate their company's VPN before their wifi connection struggle.
Is an ethernet connection technically better in some of those cases? Sure, but the vast majority of people would notice no functional difference aside from having to plug in a second cable.
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So this will just be like a firmware patch or something for my new wifi 6 routers I'm guessing right?
It's an entirely new standard, so no, it won't just be a firmware patch.
Will I be able to use it in another room? Because wow wifi 5 was awful, and 6 isn't that much better.
Generally as wireless tech gets faster, it's less able to travel distances or penetrate stuff
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Wifi 6 has become pretty affordable but the high speed 6E is still super expensive.
Is 7 an innovation or just more antennas and processing power usage?
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Early adoption might be expensive.
I’ll wait as I put in WiFi 6E last year. I get 500-800mbps. I positioned 3 units through out. My laptops support WiFi 6 and 6E. So…no reason to upgrade since they cannot hit the higher speeds without direct line or adapter.
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