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[–] FlyingSquid 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In 2007, Gutgsell pleaded guilty to theft by deception for embezzling $127,000 from an area church. He was sentenced to probation and ordered to pay restitution. He was later reassigned to another church. At the time, church leaders said Gutgsell learned his lesson, admitted wrongdoing and sought forgiveness.

Score another win for the power of God.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I know there's a strong anti-religious rhetoric now but if you take this at face value, isn't it a good thing that a person that committed a crime shows remorse? The crime committed occurred 16 years ago in 2007. That's plenty of time for someone to change their behavior.

On top of that, the police don't have any evidence of this attack being linked to his criminal history. The poor man was stabbed to death by an early morning intruder into his home. It's really no different than using criminal history as justification for a wrongful death involving the police.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He was later reassigned to another church. At the time, church leaders said Gutgsell learned his lesson, admitted wrongdoing and sought forgiveness.

Priests should be held to a higher standard, not lower. Confessing and seeking forgiveness is the first step. Penance is next. Things like this REALLY make me struggle with my faith. What is the point of being part of an organization who preaches virtues but then doesn't hold their own to that standard.

I hold myself to the same standards I give my children, and then more. I give them more leniency because they are children. If we are supposed to be the children of God and the priest is our leader, then it follows that the priest should be held to a higher standard! ;alsjdfn;lasf;oiasjf;olasjhdfsd;fo

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Regardless if you are religious or not, misuse of authority by anyone occupying such a position out of their own free will is always wrong and they always should be held to a higher standard.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

This is pretty in line with the 'repent and all is forgiven' standard of Catholicism. I say that as someone who was raised Catholic.

I'm not sure what else you expect.

[–] EdibleFriend 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Should have just raped children. Thats always allowed.

[–] SPRUNT 4 points 1 year ago

Nay, encouraged.

[–] Bigmouse 9 points 1 year ago

Pawn takes Bishop

[–] qooqie 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I smell this being used by people in some sort of narrative formation hmmm

[–] Feathercrown 0 points 1 year ago

It's too late, I'm forming the narrative as we speak.

[–] TheJims 2 points 1 year ago

There’s a dead bishop on the landing