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[–] [email protected] 96 points 11 months ago (1 children)

At first glance it reminds me of a 1990s video game where they don't have the polygons and the graphic card horse power to display what a Pontiac Aztek would look like.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Graphic cards have met a hard limit, and we now have to reduce the visuals of reality to make games look more realistic.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hey, you support Elon, you get what you deserve.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago

Play stupid Elon games win stupid Elon prizes!

[–] [email protected] 48 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's a very ugly vehicle...

[–] jettrscga 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think it's beautiful as an art piece. A perfect testament to a rich manchild's inability to be told "no".

And now people get to drive around in this embodiment of hubris.

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[–] yokonzo 47 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Wait was it really 100k I thought the whole idea was it was super cheap to produce and buy because flat metal plates are way easier to manufacture

[–] Mr_Fish 98 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Because everyone knows 90% of the manufacturing cost of a car is bending the bodywork panels.

[–] MycelialMass 25 points 11 months ago

Got me on that one ahah

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

One of Musks pitches for selling the car at 40k was that bending the steel panels is cheaper then making curved and painted ones.

Of course, the cars lowest trim is 60k because Musk is a liar, but that was part of the hype he was selling.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It’s a special alloy and it turns out it doesn’t like to make big flat parts, or something like that.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yea I started watching the MKBHD video on it and turned it off at the part where he was kinda justifying how sophisticated the metal pressing process had to be because it has some elasticity or something and was hard to get consistent … the upshot of which was, as MKBHD admitted, that the panels were inconsistent and you were going to get random gaps in the plating. He kinda showed some examples, and to me, even over YouTube, it just felt cheap and I no longer understood how someone could feel ok spending the money.

[–] hperrin 9 points 11 months ago

Because Elon is a god king genius emerald boy who can do no wrong and you’d be a fool to ever doubt his perfection. It would be an honor to go into crippling debt to support him.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

The original idea, as I understand it, was that it would be made of the same stainless alloy that SpaceX was developing for Starship. This steel was too hard to form using stamping, as the tools used would wear down much faster. So, they had to limit themselves to bending the sheet metal with a press brake, which really can’t do compound curves, hence the need for straight lines. Whether any of this was ever the real reason I have no idea, but one tidbit is that for Starship, they were using 304L (same mixture as some of my pans) and may never have switched to their own alloy. So, the design may at one point have been necessary for practical considerations, but that may have been mooted without bothering to change the design.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Most metals don’t. That’s why cars have curves in the body work.

[–] MotoAsh 8 points 11 months ago

The woes of trying to make a strong 2D shape in a 3D world.

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[–] marx2k 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I honestly thought that at launch they would drop away the metal panels to reveal a kickass vehicle underneath.

Nope. That's actually the thing.

lolwtf

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (8 children)

I love taking the wind out of Elon's sails because he is just a horrible and cringe person to an extreme degree, but I personally like the cybertruck aesthetically. It definitely different from anything we have seen in a truck, and I'm all for it. It's also basically a concept car that is somehow actually making it to market, and if it motivates the bigger auto makers to take more chances with their designs and ideas, I think it's great.

That said, its so ludicrously expensive, and so impractical/not advisable for all the reasons I would personally use a truck, because it's basically an SUV with a bed. It's like a Chevy Avalanche/Honda Ridgeline mashup. This thing is the ultimate pavement princess. If there's one thing I wouldn't be an early adopter for, it's something thats whole purpose is to get beat the fuck up.

[–] marx2k 10 points 11 months ago

It really does just look like a Lamborghini you'd get on an N64 if you didn't have the expansion pack.

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[–] hperrin 38 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Don’t forget that you can’t haul much because the dumbass designers sloped the walls of your bed. You have plenty of room for friends though, if you could make any.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't sure what your meant...

Bottom is release version

[–] Anticorp 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's about the level of craftsmanship I expect to see in a wheelbarrow from Harbor Freight.

[–] harry_balzac 6 points 11 months ago

I'm not sure. Their wheelbarrows are probably going to last longer and haul more than a CyberTruck.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I actually thought it would look cool at least since it's wildly different. That's just plain genuinely ugly.

[–] Retrograde 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It looks like something the top gear guys would have made for a laugh before dropping it into the sea

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[–] boeman 8 points 11 months ago

It's like driving a doorstop in reverse.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

I still think it looks really cool, but I'm still in favour of more accessible public transportation eating away at the space cars have taken from us.

Also I will never ever buy a Tesla, for wide ranging variety of other reasons.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Similar concept to the discrepancy in the pictures of food in a restaurant menu vs what you're actually served.

[–] AdamEatsAss 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Plus you can't leave it parked anywhere. Anyone who sees it will want to recreate the famous steel ball test. Dude will spend a fortune at the tesla dealership getting his "bulletproof" windows replaced every week.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Honestly this just seems like the best way to have both sides of the relevant conversation hate you. The urbanists will hate you because you bought a Cybertruck which exemplifies all the problems with large cars in urban areas and car dependency in general, not to mention techbro dependency. And the truck people will hate you because you bought a liberal socialist soy boy electric truck instead of a noble, God-anointed, by your bootstraps diesel truck.

Wouldn't be surprised if someone comes back to the parking lot to see a line of alternating rednecks and railfans all taking turns keying their truck.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

It’s definitely going to be very popular with some ~~crews~~ groups…

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q_Sxq5LPtPM

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

They're $100K in debt for a fridge.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

LPT: Don't buy anything chasing after happiness.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ughh it just looks like a fridge with wheels

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (16 children)

Most fridges do have wheels, especially the large ones.

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[–] Snapz 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

[Puts on stupid, ugly, expensive sunglasses at night]

🎶 "Reluctantly (chuckled at by teens), at the starting line..." 🎶

[–] 1847953620 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Pointing, and laughing and cringing inside

The green light flashes, the jig is up

Buyers. Remorse. A divorce creeping up.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

but, but, the only way to fill the void in my heart is to consooooooooom!

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[–] MigratingtoLemmy 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Why would anyone go into debt for something like this? If you can't afford it, you should clearly not be buying something like this.

Other than that, it is largely foolish to consider other's opinions on a lot of our actions.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

News flash, easily over 50% of cars on the road are bought with borrowed money and therefore debt.

[–] Crack0n7uesday 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Even people that don't need loans still do some sort of financing option for their credit score.

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[–] Prethoryn 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Should someone tell him? Who is going to tell him?

Alright, I will do it. People make bad decisions.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

It's OK to go into debt over a depreciating asset if you can afford to default on the loan, and it substantially improves your ability to make money. Businesses do it all the time. If a sole trader could work better with the cybertruck for some reason(I've got nothing) and could borrow off their house as collateral, that's a financially savvy business decision.

But a lot of people fall victim to predatory marketing. We need to recognize that it's not just them being dumb, they were manipulated, tricked and lied to by a powerful machine.

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