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[-] FluffyPotato 12 points 2 months ago

Hasn't Russia tortured like every pow at this point? Why is this special?

[-] PRUSSIA_x86 24 points 2 months ago

They have more room to work legally, since he was an American

[-] FluffyPotato 5 points 2 months ago

I guess the US has more luck running a case where they have access to one side at least but it's not like this does anything as the US has no power to charge Russian citizens not in the US. Like this would sound more meaningful if the US worked with international institutions for this like the International Criminal Court in Hague for example.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Well the person does not have to be in the US merely in a country that has an extradition treaty, is willing to extradite for a price in the game of geopolitics, or the US thinks it can perform a rendition.

In any way it is also a signal to the world. Do t forget about Ukraine and the Russians are doing terrible things there.

It probably also helps pressure the GOP to put forward a vote for aid to Ukraine. If they don't they don't care about Russians torturing Americans. And that's not an easy thing to spin for the GOP spindoctors.

[-] galloog1 1 points 2 months ago

The US does not recognize their authority due to judgements against US citizens concerning war crimes that the US is not signatory to. It's an important legal distinction.

[-] Zoboomafoo 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

He's an American citizen

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


WASHINGTON (AP) — Four Russian men accused of torturing an American during the invasion of Ukraine have been charged with war crimes in a case that’s the first of its kind, the Justice Department announced on Wednesday.

The American told federal agents who had traveled to Ukraine last year as part of an investigation that the Russian soldiers had abducted him, stripped him naked, pointed a gun at his head and badly beaten him, Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said.

Garland has been outspoken on war crimes in Ukraine since Russia’s invasion began in February 2022, and the Justice Department assigned federal prosecutors to examine the potential of bringing criminal charges.

Independent human rights experts backed by the United Nations have said they’ve found continued evidence of war crimes committed by Russian forces, including torture that ended in death and rape of women aged up to 83 years old.

The International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant for Russian President Vladimir Putin in March for war crimes, accusing him of personal responsibility for the abductions of children from Ukraine.

The U.S. and Russia do not have an extradition treaty, but the Justice Department has brought repeated criminal cases against Russian nationals, most notably for cyber crimes and including for interference in the 2016 presidential election.


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