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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E 133 points 1 year ago (8 children)

We can criticize Israel, while condemning Hamas terrorists

[–] ChonkyOwlbear 80 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And we can make aid to Israel contingent on future improvements on the treatment of Palestinians.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

(And prosecute the IDF and Israeli state in international Court for crimes against humanity)

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

I like this, we should do this, for sure. Nobody can claim it's unfair.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At this point, I would argue that Israel has done more for Hamas PR and popularity than anything in the last 20 years.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I was pissed off at Israel when I learned that we can't have a single-payer Health Care Program because we are too busy funding the one Israel has. Learning how they treat Palestinians just puts a seal on the fuck Israel deal.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel is a little bigger in area and population than the SF Bay Area. We don't lack single payer health care because we are paying for Israel's. We don't have it because our government is in the pockets of those who benefit from us not having it.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We can also condem israel for creating this entire situation

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Do you think if Hamas dissappear tomorrow, those who throw garbage will stop?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ted Kaczynski made a lot of really solid points, but bombing people, especially civilians, is wrong.

People still cheer for Luke Skywalker though.

Humans are more tribalistic than rational. They pick sides and justify later.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (9 children)

The Death Star was a military installation that had already shown itself to be aggressive with death tolls in the literal billions. Not a fair comparison.

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this combined with the orders from IDF that under no circumstances were celebrations or signs of joy allowed when prisoners were returned to their families; fucking ghouls.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Calling Israel's apartheid "modern" to me kind of implies that South Africa's apartheid, whose transitional period ended in 1994, was somehow "ancient" or "old-fashioned"... Yeah, you can rest assured that apartheid/segregation always has been far too modern.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I mean... It ended. Almost 30 years ago. So it's not happening in the modern day.

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[–] VaultBoyNewVegas 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also South Africa still has massive problems between white and black people. I watched a documentary a few years ago where I black paralympian travelled round South Africa to see how things had changed and he was stunned that black people live in shanty towns outside major cities still, also the guy was shown a rich area with private security patrols and high walled residences and the security kept coming back to look at him, basically not trusting him there.

[–] STRIKINGdebate2 13 points 1 year ago

Intergenerational poverty can be extremely hard to break out from. It isn't helped by the fact that wealth in this planet is finite with most of it trickling upwards.

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[–] Brunbrun6766 62 points 1 year ago

Zionists: "they Made us do it!"

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Opposing Israel is not the action of a neo-nazi, it is the action of someone who is disgusted by Nazis.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Garbage and rocks. Don't forget rocks

[–] dustyData 30 points 1 year ago

But I've been informed by a bunch of friendly folks from reddit that throwing rocks is a highly dangerous major criminal offense, trialed by the military, in Israel.

/s

[–] GutsBerserk 29 points 1 year ago

Disgusting. Imagine you are walking around minding your business and a Zionist throws his trash on your head.

Israel treats Palestinians worse than animals.

[–] carl_dungeon 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I’m starting to think some of these Israelis aren’t the nicest people

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