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cross-posted from: https://feddit.uk/post/4954415

The digital world, I’m realising, is a bit of a racket. Recently most of my iTunes library disappeared from my iPhone, and I just don’t know if I can be bothered to go through all the different hoops, portals, queueing systems and long forgotten passwords to get them back again. I’ve also had the repeated experience of trying to view a film I’ve downloaded on Amazon, only to get that little square in the middle of the screen telling me that the player’s having issues at the moment, and would I, could I try again later? Meanwhile, the CDs and DVDs reproach me from my shelves like an abandoned spouse. ‘We were once your rock,’ they remind me, ‘And you traded us for tech-tinsel, a piece of cyber-skirt. How are you feeling now?’

I feel what I’ve always felt – that DVDs and Blu-rays were the summit of the film-lovers’ experience, and that progress should have stopped forever after that. Perhaps downloads or streamable films can have the picture quality of a Blu-ray (someone will doubtless tell me they do), but works of art should produce an artefact, something you can hold in your hand and own.

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So my Blu-ray collecting goes on, but it’s strictly finite. I don’t want any film I don’t actually love (this rules out the collected Tarkovsky or Bergman, things I’d like to think of myself as liking rather than actually wanting to watch). My ambitions in fact are modest: the middle period works of Woody Allen (they’re about £25 a piece and should be), the odd Hollywood classic (the more technicolour the better) and some of those gritty 1960s northern films (the kind Morrissey purloined for his album covers) starring Tom Courtenay and Rita Tushingham. Then, barring the odd hiccup, I’m done.

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[–] Aurix 15 points 10 months ago

Ah yes, because 4K Blu Rays are banned for PC users liked me, so I quite literally have to pirate it either way. Cracking the disc to copy it onto the hard drive or download out it outright. Fuck the industry.

[–] Oderus 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Blu-ray has a paywall per film

[–] TrickDacy 9 points 10 months ago

I think a paywall is explicitly a digital gate artificially installed in front of content you're being teased with. I know people have started using the term more loosely but that's pretty confusing imo

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Isn't the archive link at the end of the post?

[–] Carighan 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I'll be honest, as someone who never understood the concept of "owning" a movie - that is, why would I need that, at best I'll have one more time I play it to watch it with someone in particular but then it's just collecting dust and movies aren't a collectible of value to me - streaming is exactly right for me:

It offers me a maybe-ephemeral but also near endless ocean of lightweight content to consume. That's what I need movies or TV shows for, they're not a central hobby for me, they're not a big enrichment of my mental state (I got books for that, tbh), so yeah, I fit the target audience. Just put on some shit, and luckily "shit" never runs on any streaming platform.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Same. I watch a movie for the experience of the movie. I won't rewatch it over and over and over. Given that one Bluray case is as big as a harddrive these days, it will just block space in my house after that. If I've seen the movie, the experience is in my head and that's what counts at the end of the day.

[–] SmoothLiquidation 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A 4K movie, uncompressed is usually around 70gb. A 12 TB iron wolf NAS drive will cost you about $200. That will hold over 150 movies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I was referring to the physical drive. An external hard drive takes up almost the same amount of space a BluRay cover does.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Yeah. Stream and watch or download, watch, delete. Repeat whenever needed, usually not needed.

[–] agent_flounder 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think it's time to hit the thrift store and set up a media server at home.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

It's really looking that way.

I'm aware that an underground VPN exists among a few of my old workmates. They asked me to join but I'm a goody-goody (twice shy on that) so no, but the torrents still flow.

This will come back. The fat cats know, and they're getting ready.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

I've pivoted back to 4K BluRays for a while now. The image quality is perceptively better than in most streaming services, it's given me a great fallback to tell Netflix to GTFO with their ongoing price bumps for their 4K tier and I am no longer worried that I'll lose access to them.

Plus there are actually good ways to serve your own multiplexed video out of those now if you care about it that much.

[–] breadsmasher 5 points 10 months ago

People pay for movies and tv shows? 🏴‍☠️

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

But how do you know if you love a film before buying it'd dvd if you watch only on dvd ? And if you watched it already somewhere else, what's the point of buying the dvd ?

I can maybe fill one small shelf with DVD of movies that I enjoying re watching (maybe 20, top 30). Otherwise for nearly all the movie I watch them once and that's done. So streaming or piracy are the best for my use case.

[–] StorminNorman 10 points 10 months ago

The same way we did before streaming...? Trusted reviews. Gut instinct. That sorta thing. You take a chance and go with it. I still do it with music hard copies. Sometimes I've never even heard of the artist I'm buying, I just like the artwork, or someone in the store will say something about it. I pirate a lot myself, been on some forums for near on 2 decades now, a lot of the people I know on them still buy media. I mean, it's kinda like going out to eat, you don't always get a winner every time, but the hits usually outweigh the misses.

[–] Oderus 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You could rent DVD's at Blockbuster etc. We did it all the time in the 90's. Bunch of guys all hit the Blockbuster on a Friday night and grab 2-3 movies and then sit back and drink our faces off. Then we'd forget to return them and would get charged an amount equal to the cost of the DVD itself in late fees. Ah, good times.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

My dad was an OG pirate. He would burn the dvds we got at blockbuster if he liked the movie

[–] TrickDacy 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Except blockbuster fully no longer exists anymore.

[–] SmoothLiquidation 4 points 10 months ago

I still rent from Redbox and the library. Sure the library is only DVD quality but it is free. For most movies that is fine and I can upgrade later to Blu-ray or 4K if I like the movie later.

[–] Oderus 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Of course not. Everyone moved to streaming services. Zero physical media and you get to charge people whatever you want and can increase your prices yearly, while dropping content you love. For me, that's not working so I pirate everything.

I still have 300+ DVD's but I've downloaded them all once I got my Plex home media server setup and now I don't even care what streaming services are out there. I got everything I need and it works when my internet doesn't.

[–] TrickDacy 2 points 10 months ago

I'm with you. I agree that it's silly that physical media has all but disappeared. It's especially sad that it happened right after bluray became affordable. The picture quality on them is astounding. The banding/artifacts you sometimes see on streaming services should not be acceptable at all, but honestly I think a lot of people do not notice them at all!

[–] MedicPigBabySaver 4 points 10 months ago

I literally bought my self a Xmas gift of a Blu Ray player. Arrives by end of the week.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I have dogma on DVD. I'm happy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The digital world, I’m realising, is a bit of a racket.

Then it fades into a paywall, lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Isn't the archive link at the end of the post?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

As someone that used to own hundreds of dvds then upgraded to bluray and now have a smaller collection of 4k uhd's for only movies that i really want to experience to the best that they can be viewed. On the flip side i have inherited my dad's laserdisc collection which started in the early 90's but generally looks horrible on a modern tv. They don't take up much space but i should sell them.
I also have a server with 50tb of space but forever having drives fail it's a costly situation so now i generally use stremio or kodi and a realdebrid subscription and stream 4k or 1080 and don't collect anything anymore.