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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by quinten to c/games
 

Edit: the results are in!

Hey all!

Since Lemmy is a new platform with new communities. We as the c/Games community have to decide what we want to be.

The last days I saw several posts with (low) effort memes. Some seem to enjoy it, some report it because they want a more serious discussion on here.

Therefore, I would like to ask you for your opinion: What should happen to memes on this community?

Please take a moment to fill in the poll. It will close on Monday.

https://strawpoll.com/jVyG8VzOGn7

Also feel free to discuss it in the comments!

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[–] MrModule 122 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No. R/gaming was a clownshow of the same low effort garbage posts. Have a day of the week or push it to another sub.

[–] SmarfDurden 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look at this hidden gem! -posts picture of Witcher 3-

[–] miraclerandy 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

OMG, this game is so buggy, when are they going to fix it?! GIF of Skyrim being Skyrim

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[–] Voytrekk 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I voted no. I would prefer this community to be more like r/Games than r/gaming. I would rather the community be about game news, reviews, and discussions.

Allowing a single day of the week will lead to more work on the moderators than a general ban. It also makes the community less usable on those days. I also worry that it will destroy viewing the community by top posts.

[–] hydroel 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wanted to write a whole paragraph but you summed it up nicely. I'd also add that I'm afraid allowing memes, even on a single day, could be a slippery slope, and that I'd rather keep them on another community.

[–] rookie 5 points 1 year ago

I’m afraid allowing memes, even on a single day, could be a slippery slope,

yeah, I think trying to make everyone happy with forced coexistence (instead of just having two distinct areas) might actually be likely to only create more friction

[–] DelvianSeek 42 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I like the choice for a single day of the week - seems a good happy medium.

[–] brawleryukon 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm not even sold on the one day a week option. Maybe the mods can do a stickied megathread one day a week and all the memesters can just pile in there and have at it. If the community itself is just going to be flooded with memes one day a week, though, that essentially makes it unusable that day and reduces the overall value of the entire community.

Keep them out altogether or keep them severely constrained so those who don't want anything to do with them can easily ignore them are the only two viable options.

[–] Carnelian 8 points 1 year ago

I like this the most. Plus, then we can search for the stickies threads to browse for memes when we’re in the mood, instead of having them all loose everywhere

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[–] rookie 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I voted for that, but almost immediately regretted not going for the "none at all" option.

The people that want a gaming meme community want that. They don't want a 2000 word eurogamer deep dive or the Verge breaking down some publisher deal, they just want a meme page. The people that want a nice hub for gaming headlines of the day aren't generally looking for that to be replaced 15% of the time with image macros of Geralt making a funny face in a cutscene.

Splitting that into two communities (like /c/Games and c/gamingmemes or something) seems like the best way to allow for both spaces to exist for people who want that environment, when they want it, without the additional friction of them trying to coexist and appeal to different groups of people. I can understand why that compromise feels like a good way to make everyone happy (and it's why I voted for it initially!) but I'm just not convinced that it's a better solution than two distinct spaces with their own distinct approaches.

[–] garretble 5 points 1 year ago

I second this notion. Memes are fun on occasion, but not all the time.

I’d rather the community grow to be a place to hear about good gaming news and opinions, and not just crammed full of memes.

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[–] swancheez 41 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Absolutely no memes please. Right now, r/games is easily the subreddit that I miss the most, and it's because it was entirely news and discussion focused. I sincerely hope I can turn to this community for most of my gaming news, and don't want to see an influx of memes.

[–] HollowNotion 6 points 1 year ago

Yes, 100%. I want that one-stop shop for game news and discussion. I don’t need meme reposts here.

[–] Rakonat 5 points 1 year ago

Pretty much this, I want a concentrated source of gaming news and relevant media, at worst having one day a week set aside for jokes or less relevant content. But even that begs why not just make another sub like gamingmemes. Keep each c/ focused and on topic, people can join/make subs that fall outside the scope .

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[–] Alice 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

no thank you, Reddit already became bloated to hell and back via memes being allowed on a lot of forums, let's keep it sanitized and have another community for that.

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[–] VIV_ID 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I love me a good gaming meme, but I would rather this community to stay focused on discussion. There could be a separate community dedicated to gaming related memes so people could have another place to get their fix instead.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

I actually loved how it was split between /r/gaming as a place for memes and (really, like really really) low effort posts and /r/games for actual news and discussions around games. I would not combine both.

[–] thattysonguy 31 points 1 year ago

I'd rather this sub be more like r/games than r/gaming. News and discussion.

[–] yads 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The issue I have with memes is that you end up with the same low effort meme posts:

"does anyone remember this forgotten gem? (image of best selling game)"

"When your custom character is in a cutscene"

"You're 12 again, school is over and you're about to play (massively popular game)"

Etc

I feel like maybe there should just be a gaming memes community. For that sort of content.

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[–] BlackDeath3 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Memes are kind of everywhere, and seem to take over everything else around them. They're like an invasive species, really. They're the invasive content of the Internet world.

I say we go meme-less!

[–] bighi 10 points 1 year ago

Yes. The problem is that if memes are allowed, any community becomes 90% memes or more.

[–] Melonpoly 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No memes, allowing memes usually ends up in it being the only thing posted instead of discussions.

[–] dq9 8 points 1 year ago

Plus once you open up that door, it's hard to close it.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

No, I'd rather have a separate community for game memes (which I myself might also join) and keep things clean here.

[–] hal_5700X 18 points 1 year ago

No. Go to C/gamingmemes or something.

[–] Beardfish 17 points 1 year ago

Absolutely not. Just look at the difference between /r/games and /r/gaming. One is a place where people discuss the latest games and gaming news, the other is a place where people post pictures of their old video game cartridges and low effort memes.

[–] Purr 17 points 1 year ago

It's better to have a separate ~~subreddit~~ community for memes. Allowing memes will results in this being the only content here.

[–] aaronstc 17 points 1 year ago

No, thank you.

[–] Zwabber 14 points 1 year ago

This is how all new rules should come into place, on every community. By voting by the community.

[–] theyseemeroland 13 points 1 year ago

Absolutely not. Games on Reddit was a serious news and discussion forum. That's what I'd like to see here. Meme communities can name themselves just that, but this is c/Games, not c/Gaming or c/GameMemes

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

No memes here, please. I actually enjoy them but we can have a separate option elsewhere on lemmy for that.

[–] simo 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No memes imo. R Gaming was a shit fest i’of memba this game!

C/gamingmemes and boom, go wild and you can sun to both instead of ruining the mainline community :)

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[–] Paria_Stark 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My dream would be to find the slightly pedantic discussions and review threads of /r/games, and leave memes for other communities.

But I don't think we'll be enough people to do so, merging might be the way to go.

[–] brawleryukon 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But I don’t think we’ll be enough people to do so

We aren't until we are.

No community springs forth fully-formed. Lemmy's already had one big influx of users after the reddit blackout, and we can expect there to be another wave (to some extent or another) tomorrow after the major apps shut down. Some of those users will certainly have been subscribed to /r/games and not /r/gaming, and are going to want an equivalent community here.

The only way to foster that and let it grow is to enforce the requisite rules that keep the community from turning into a cesspool right at the start. Maybe it'll slow overall growth, but it won't kill it altogether. If that means that /c/Games here doesn't end up as the pre-eminent Lemmy community for games, well, so be it. /r/games was significantly smaller than /r/gaming, but it still thrived.

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[–] rookie 10 points 1 year ago

It’s definitely a valid question, because Lemmy is going to be just as vulnerable as reddit to the problem of how much quicker low-effort memes accrue upvotes, which naturally results in them drowning out articles and discussion posts. The latter, despite being more interesting and generally “higher-quality”, will always take more time per-user to engage with - so, in systems like this, they naturally fall behind in both pace and volume of upvote.

So, as long as we’re using an upvote system, those need to be split so the articles and discussion posts don’t get drowned out in a sea of easily-consumed and quickly-upvoted low-content posts. I know I would personally really prefer having a proper feedly-style community with a bunch of articles and discussions than another gaming meme one that could basically be a bot linked to an instagram feed.

I actually voted for one day but now that I've thought about it a bit more, I think I'd prefer a /c/games and /c/gamemes or something, just so the people that want the latter have their space all the time. It seems preferable to the friction of trying to share space for both styles of community when we don't actually have to. I think, if we do vote to keep them, we're going to need a /c/gamingdiscussion or something for the actual wordy content.

[–] Pregnenolone 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I absolutely despised the low effort shit in rgaming.

But please please please, if you’re going to accept low effort crap, make people post the title of the game in the post.

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[–] bighi 9 points 1 year ago

I can already find a trillion worthless memes anywhere else. There’s no need to bury useful content under all that noise here.

[–] Rubius95 9 points 1 year ago

I vote no, there should be other gaming communities which are meme focused, and memes certainly have their place, but I'd rather have this be a place on Lemmy for serious gaming discussion

[–] Ace_of_spades 8 points 1 year ago

Please no memes.

Also, no posts where someone posts a picture of a game box with the title “just about to start playing this bad boy, wish me luck” or “they don’t make games like this anymore”. It’s just a picture of the game! Why is it here?!?!?

[–] Mereo 8 points 1 year ago

No. I want this community to be focused on games discussions. Memes can be posted on c/GamesMemes.

[–] MadTitan86 8 points 1 year ago

As a convert from reddit, definitely no memes

[–] BrudderAaron 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Old Reddit user turned Lemmy here. Memes are fun and all, but they also get out of hand very quickly and we're stuck with a sub with low-effort memes instead of actual discussion/news. Once a month meme day could work though.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I voted no. Reddit has separate subreddits for gaming discussion and gaming memes and I would like it to stay that way here.

[–] SGG 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My first opinion on my not even 2 day old account would be no.

But I'd be OK with a MemeDay as well if the "no meme"s result isn't over 50% in the poll. It can bring a nice bit of variety (even if that same content is available elsewhere).

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