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[–] [email protected] 84 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The story behind Senerenity OS is quite amazing:

It was October 2018 and I had just completed a 3-month rehab program at a state addiction clinic in Sweden. I was unemployed, staying with family, and had basically nothing going on.

With no drugs or other vices to pass the time, the days seemed impossibly long. I struggled to find activities to fill them. I enrolled in school for a while, but it wasn’t for me this time either. Eventually I turned to programming, since it’s always been my big interest in life.

Until that point, my career had been focused on web browsers (WebKit at Apple & Nokia). However, I had always been interested in low-level things so I began tinkering with some of that. I wrote a little ELF executable parser.. And an Ext2 filesystem browser.. And a little GUI framework with an event loop..

Out of this tinkering, an operating system began to take shape. I chose the name SerenityOS because I wanted to always remember the Serenity Prayer. I was quite worried about my future at the time, and I figured that this name would help me stay on the good path.

My general idea was to build my own dream system for daily use. It would be a combination of my two favorite computing paradigms: the 1990s GUI and the no-nonsense command-line of late-2000s Unix.

Source: https://awesomekling.substack.com/p/i-quit-my-job-to-focus-on-serenityos-full-time

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

I will never not be impressed with people who get themselves off drugs and have endless respect for that.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wait, so that's a proper *NIX system? A non-linux system? That's quite impressive!

[–] [email protected] 57 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Yes and they implement EVERYTHING in house. In case you haven't heard they also started implementing a browser engine from scratch https://ladybird.dev/ just for fun. It kinda took off and they even got some nice donations, just to keep it going and see where it leads.

The "founders" youtube channel is quit interesting. Especially the monthly update videos if you want to keep up to date with the latest developments. https://inv.tux.pizza/channel/UC3ts8coMP645hZw9JSD3pqQ

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yikes.

Building everything from scratch is one thing.

Maintaining it is completely different.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

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[–] kuneho 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

tried it out in a VM, I was truly impressed by that browser.

I mean, sure, lots of pages don't work, but lots of pages DOES work on it, with no issues.

Never seen this on any custom, "built in" browser of an alternative OS.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

The browser was at first only available in serentyOS itself but lately is available as a stand alone program running on other OSs as well. It's still pretty early days, I am exited to see where all this leads tho!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Wow, a whopping 100k from Shopify, that’s awesome!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Does the browser work yet? Can’t find screenshots

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

It's a work in progress. Most sites won't work but some do. Check out this latest development update video: https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=giq5iXJntgQ&t=911 That link leads directly to the "demo segment" where he opens some sites.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Why do groups insist on BSD/MIT/Apache style licensing...

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago

I don't know about the creators of this project, but in general: So that they can use the stuff in their closed source applications while finding enough contributors to write software for them for free.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

For some software, where EEE tactics aren't a concern, but corporate adoption matters, these licenses make perfect sense. However. that's not the case here: an OS is a prime target for EEE.

[–] TrickDacy 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What is your issue with the licensing?

[–] Ugurcan 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Is it possible to run it in VM?

Edit: it’s meant to run on a vm. cool!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Quite easy. It automatically starts in qemu when you build it.

[–] kuneho 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Amazing project.

I was just trying to boot it up on bare metal yesterday, on an AMD Phenom II machine but Kernel Panic'd on not finding a device to boot from, which was a bit puzzling. Unfortunately had no time to investigate, but I won't give up, I make it boot somehow on that PC.

Or try to run it on a Raspberry Pi 400.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How does it compare to TempleOS though?

[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] kadu 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Oh, so it's already corrupted by sin, I see

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Whoa whoa slow down with this new-fangled fad ideas. Next you'll try and tell me every user process doesn't run in ring 0.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

His coding videos are really nice to see. I don't even understand that much, as it's mostly C++, but the coding, the explanation, and the final feature and commit is somehow relaxing.