Decided to give outlook a try cause of good integration on Windows. Uninstalled it the second I saw an ad on my inbox. it even shows up as regular mail and you wouldn't know it is an ad unless you look closely at the small Ad sign at the corner.
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Also the new version, which might be beta still, just sends you to a web browser to do shit in. If I wanted to open emails in a web browser in the first place then I'd do that.
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what?? I've had Outlook for years and never saw any ads? Did you download some sketchy cracked version?
The new outlook on windows 11 23H2. And there’s also a subscription model just to remove ads lmao
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Ugh, native ads are the worst! 🤬
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We are REQUIRED to use outlook at my job, along with all the MS bullshit. I've changed my Thunderbird interface to make it look exactly like outlook, synced my calendars, and kept using it for the past year or so. They have no clue. I hate Microsoft with passion, I will spent hours of my free time to find ways to be out of their ecosystem if I need to, and I usually manage to do so.
Cant they see the email domain? Or thunderbird accesses outlook?
AFAIK thunderbird can access outlook.
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There are people in my workplace (which uses Gmail) who willingly use Outlook to access it then complain about Outlook problems. Outlook is the biggest piece of trash email client software I've ever used.
At one place I worked at, it was OBLITERATING any mails from one particular person because of a completely unrelated filter I had. Email notifications from them would appear for a few seconds, then the email would completely disappear (not even in deleted, or in any filter folders). Everyone else cced could see the emails except me, and IT couldn't figure it out. I had to disable ALL my filters which trashed my inbox with stupid work circulars. Fuck Outlook.
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True gigachads write emails from the terminal.
mutt ftw
or elm, if you wanna go oldschool
I like to use telnet
The Lemmy client I'm using thinks your account is 
Edit: And somehow I managed to take the screenshot at 4:20 AND I'm not even high. Yet.
I use Voyager too, was going to comment the same xD
Maybe it's intentional, 420 years:
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telnet mailhost 110
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Cannot Start Microsoft Outlook. Cannot open the Outlook window. The set of folders cannot be opened. The operation has failed.
As the de-facto IT admin in a small business, this message haunts my dreams and I hate that I know it by heart. Time to make a new mail profile and configure all the accounts again. Its not like it's the seventh time on this computer. It's not like I've reinstalled Outlook three times already as per Microsoft's "accepted solution".
There's a reason I don't use Microsoft software on my hardware.
One time, when I had to use outlook, someone called me asking why I wasn't replying to emails since like 3 days. Turned out Outlook had decided I could receive emails, but when I was replying, the email would put in a special folder "to be sent" or something, because the MS outgoing server was not working. I looked like a fucking imbecile when I figured it out and tried to explain what happened.
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Back when I was on windows, I didn’t even bother with clients anymore. The new outlook has ads in it and barely works.
I use Thunderbird now since they updated their interface and it’s very pretty and fast. Couldn’t recommend it enough.
Yeah, I never thought I'd use a dedicated email client anywhere but work, but Thunderbird is really good.
I also use K-9 on mobile, which I like even more, but marking messages as spam never seems to stick. I still keep getting absolute trash from Google, even though I unsubscribed to updates a long time ago.
I was a K-9 user for a time there. I sprung for the Nine client's 1 time buy for my work email so I could control with a schedule notifications and mail retrieval.
I now use it for my Gmail client so I can add inline photos to my messages on Android.
I know it's hip to bash all things Microsoft, but Outlook is my life at work. It's absolutely fine if you're not predisposed to hating things.
Yeah I don't mind Outlook, I also use it for work and it does the job just fine.
And it has folders. I still don't like Gmail's "labels"
Outlook is fine, but you can tell there is no real competition and they just haven't really bothered putting any effort into it for years.
Yup. So is edge and teams with 365.
But most of these people haven't got a clue what they're talking about. The other has never worked in an office environment.
Even fewer yet, had the displeasure of working with g suite.
It's better than the native Mail app by Apple.
I do hate the new web based experience though. The executable client is very good.
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I use thunderbird, though it really feels like it has terrible performance for me. Feels like a really heavy program for just an email client.
Still better than having ads on your client.
Thunderbird is great for me. I've used it for near on twenty years, and it flies compared to Outlook, especially for searching.
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The problem is. Nowadays all email clients have to be browsers cause email text is sent as html
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After the redesign I'm honestly surprised half of the world is not on Thunderbird already.
There's a setting to make it use the old interface. I don't know what I'll do when they remove it :(
Nice one, made me chuckle!
I was expecting a thunderbird meme.
owa is so much better than outlook for me, at least for my work email. There's actual dark mode, the servers seem to do all the heavy lifting so it never seems slow, the attachment preview is better and i can download a message as .eml instead of proprietary .msg format. Probably once a day I have to hit F5 because it starts acting weird. You can also make it a PWA. Seriously if you have to use corporate email give OWA a shot.
the servers seem to do all the heavy lifting so it never seems slow
Never thought the day would come when an EMAIL CLIENT's performance benefited from cloud processing. How bloated is this shit?
We have workstation machines at work, Outlook is a dog app and OS is not great either, and search is absolutely garbage. So now I boot to linux and use the web version and it is peppy. So processing on a server is better for this junk they release.
takes Notes oh no, this is even worse!
I use Luke Smith's script https://muttwizard.com/ to set up neomutt usually. Or Thunderbird. I have tried to get mutt working many times on my own and at this point I honestly dont think that I am smart enough.
I haven't really used an e-mail client since I got my hotmail account. Then later went to gmail.
Are there any advantages over using a web interface?
Unless you to self host, no
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